Dead Versa...where to start?

keethrax wrote:

Run_Away wrote: Wrong key used 5 times = P1610 lock mode. Car will not start. It's supposed to go away with a working key. Sometimes they can be real fussy and require several attempts, magic rain dances, and in some cases BCM replacement.

I'm confused as to the point of this. It knows there's an attempt to start with a bad key and does not start. So far, so good. However, by what you just wrote, it *should* still start with a good key. At which point I become puzzled. If the lockout can be disabled with a proper key what value does an explicit lockout mode add? It should already not start with the bad key (or you wont' get to the 5 times threshold), and should start with the good key. Isn't that the point of keys in the first place? I could totally see logging failed attempts throwing a code so that (if you bothered to get the code read) you would be informed. I could even make a case for the lockout kicking in at 5 tries and *not* being overridable just by using a good key. Personally, that would piss me off to no end if it applied to a car I owned. But I can at least makes case for why it's better in at least some ways than just having a key, even if they don't outweigh the downsides in my opinion. I see zero upside to an lockout system overridable with a good key. Whoever engineered it (or whoever decided that it be engineered anyhow) seems to disagree, so I'm wondering what am I missing?

Well, you have no place in todays society of electronics. The simple fact that a decent ignition lock with a quality iron key made a car just as theft-proof as a million dollars worth of electronics makes no sense at all. Must have flashing lights, or its no good.

Can we assume that the car was unlocked in the first place, which is how the 'perp' got in? If the car was locked this wouldn't be an issue, right?

I see a crosscabrolet often near here. It has handicapped plates which leads me to two thoughts.

1) If that's what it takes to still enjoy a convertible given that you are wheelchair bound then I'm okay with that and see a genuine reason for the cars existence.

Or

2) their sense of taste and style is so profoundly damaged that they have qualified as being disabled.

Bobzilla wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: I was gonna say "shotgun!" Glad you got it worked out.

My vote was about 10lbs of tannerite and a good rifle.

I was going with a road flare in the fuel filler neck.

Wall-e wrote:

Bobzilla wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: I was gonna say "shotgun!" Glad you got it worked out.

My vote was about 10lbs of tannerite and a good rifle.

I was going with a road flare in the fuel filler neck.

Your method sounds way more entertaining!

gjz30075 wrote: Can we assume that the car was unlocked in the first place, which is how the 'perp' got in? If the car was locked this wouldn't be an issue, right?

Possible, but not intentional or likely.

I see where Versa Love is not a thing around this board.

And since her car was the first to go on the hook she can stop calling the FRS the "Remon"; it actually drove to the dealer under its own power for all its early hiccups.

In reply to petegossett:

It is

Sorry, my question wasn't meant to be condescending but just trying to determine if the same issue might apply to door locks.

In reply to gjz30075:

I wonder how often keys are close enough to work in another car. I had an Escort in the teal color that most of them seem to be. I stopped for gas, came out of the quickie mart and drove about half a mile before realize my car wasn't a 5 speed when I parked it.

NOHOME wrote: Something seemed "wrong" when I got in the car to the point where I actually checked to see if I was in the right car. The wheel seemed more tilted and it was turned hard in one direction even though I had done a "drive through" so as to be able to drive out of the parking spot. Tried another key. I have since read about 3 different "dance" moves that you do with the key, door, fob and/or ignition. My mechanic who had originally said they could not even scan it cause of the code called back ten minutes later and said they found "A backdoor" into the computer and were able to re-set it. It is going to take SWMBO a year before she starts to trust the thing again! If it does it again, I wont even get the call, she will tow it to Nissan and buy a new one.

Plot twist...NOHOME got in the wrong Versa. Tow company took the correct car away and all is well. Muhahaha.

Tyler H wrote:

NOHOME wrote: Something seemed "wrong" when I got in the car to the point where I actually checked to see if I was in the right car. The wheel seemed more tilted and it was turned hard in one direction even though I had done a "drive through" so as to be able to drive out of the parking spot. Tried another key. I have since read about 3 different "dance" moves that you do with the key, door, fob and/or ignition. My mechanic who had originally said they could not even scan it cause of the code called back ten minutes later and said they found "A backdoor" into the computer and were able to re-set it. It is going to take SWMBO a year before she starts to trust the thing again! If it does it again, I wont even get the call, she will tow it to Nissan and buy a new one.

Plot twist...NOHOME got in the wrong Versa. Tow company took the correct car away and all is well. Muhahaha.

First thing I checked...Was there about $200 in coins strewn about the car? Yep, has to be the wife units car! But yeah...I DID check cause something felt wrong. When the wife buys a new car, I bet the coins in the car exceed the trade in allowance. Disclaimer, Canada has $1 and $2 coins, so it ads up.

Wall-e wrote: In reply to gjz30075: I wonder how often keys are close enough to work in another car. I had an Escort in the teal color that most of them seem to be. I stopped for gas, came out of the quickie mart and drove about half a mile before realize my car wasn't a 5 speed when I parked it.

That is funny!!!!