Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
4/23/23 4:56 p.m.

Going to go to the hive for this one. Flashiest 60K track mobile for a driver thats an intermediate driver preferring lower maintenance and an automatic/PDK/DCT/etc. Give me your ideas for a family member on the hunt.

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
4/23/23 5:04 p.m.

Think single 28 year old with a good paying job that doesnt do much wrenching.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/23/23 5:07 p.m.

Cayman S /thread. 

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/23/23 5:07 p.m.

And spend the other 20-30k on tires and instruction. 

Puddy46
Puddy46 Reader
4/23/23 5:28 p.m.

Aside from the Porsches, base Audi RS3 would be where I'd start.

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
4/23/23 5:30 p.m.

RS3, Cayman S. M2, M4, 997.2 are on the list. Trying to get an Evora on as well..... 

Although dont trust the audi WRT to maintenance. 

dps214
dps214 SuperDork
4/23/23 5:30 p.m.
BoxheadTim said:

And spend the other 20-30k on tires and instruction. 

Spend the full $60k on one new/nice enough to have some form of warranty and then hope the pdk blows up during that period.

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
4/23/23 7:00 p.m.

Yeah a 30k Cayman S is going to have the ZF 5 speed automatic.

dps214
dps214 SuperDork
4/23/23 7:45 p.m.

In reply to red_stapler :

PDK base 981 and 987.2 are creeping back under $30k. But they're going to have high miles and high mileage pdks have mixed results with heavy track use.

RobertElder
RobertElder New Reader
4/23/23 10:38 p.m.

A90 Supra?

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
4/24/23 7:18 a.m.
RobertElder said:

A90 Supra?

Wonder if they have proven reliable for HPDE duty.

fusion66
fusion66 Reader
4/24/23 7:38 a.m.

Flashy - check

Under $60k - check

Track worthy - check

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Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/24/23 9:03 a.m.
Olemiss540 said:
RobertElder said:

A90 Supra?

Wonder if they have proven reliable for HPDE duty.

Have not yet tracked mine extensively, but it managed fine through a couple of 100F days at High Plains Raceway. 

It is, after all, pretty much an M240 of the last generation in a fancy dress from Toyota. 

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UltimaDork
4/24/23 9:38 a.m.

Are there any Camaro SSs with the 1LE option still on dealer lots?  Would be flashy, fit under the price limit, and still be warrantied for track use.

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UltraDork
4/24/23 9:58 a.m.

Viper....  Can get a salvage title for under 60k pretty easy for a Gen II or Gen III GTS - and since it will end up with a salvage title it doesnt hurt to buy one from the get-go.  

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/24/23 11:05 a.m.

By "track mobile" do you mean street car that does well on the track?  We can assume that a dedicated track car is out of the question?

981 Cayman S is a pretty good recommendation.  They really need more front camber for heavy track use, and $20k+ PDK failures are uncommon but not unheard of.

Camaro SS 1LE would be a solid choice.  Plenty fast and dialed for the track right out of the box.

If it were me I'd buy a cheap Miata and learn to drive it for a year, and spend the next year saving another $15k and planning on a C8.

sevenracer
sevenracer HalfDork
4/24/23 11:20 a.m.

You describe this person as an intermediate driver, so maybe they are already aware, but hopefully you are counseling them on cost of consumables, possible logistics (separate set of wheels/tires etc) and possible worst case scenario's.

If you factor all that in, then maybe a 30-40k car is more appealing. But if it's 90% about a flashy car as they define that, and 10% about it being a decent choice for track work, then maybe not. 

STM317
STM317 PowerDork
4/24/23 11:47 a.m.

An ND RF looks kind of flashy, is available with an automatic, and would leave a bunch of room in the budget for mods, tires, instruction, insurance, etc

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Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
4/24/23 12:30 p.m.

Wonder why not more Vette love in here? To obvious?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/24/23 12:35 p.m.
Olemiss540 said:

Wonder why not more Vette love in here? To obvious?

It's the automatic requirement. No auto Vette's can handle the track, except for maybe the C8 but those aren't $60K.

 

My answer is also 981 Porsche Cayman S or 987 GTS with PDK.

dps214
dps214 SuperDork
4/24/23 12:42 p.m.

Yeah the c8 would be a decent choice but the cheapest one that makes a decent track car is like $80k. The c7 grand sport auto might be okay (just okay though) but I think even those just barely fit the budget.

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