Is the 3M specific 38808 Headliner and Fabric Adhesive the stuff to get?
I'm getting ready to replace the saggy headliner on the XJ, I picked up some fabric, now I need the glue. I want the best, I don't want to do this again. Hot summers, 120° cabin temperatures on an asphalt parking lot in the sun, so it needs to hold up to at least that.
Interested, because I suddenly had the urge to do miyukis headliner in jade diamond stitch suede.
An XJ without a saggy headliner? Surely you must be mad good sir 
I've used 3M Super 88 spray adhesive before on my pedo-van E150 but it didn't last a single Nebraska summer before it fell again. I gave up after that.
The upholstery shop by my office will do a headliner for about $100. Materials can be close to half of that. You might look into that as well.
Either go to an upholstery shop, or buy the materials from them. I have professional experience with wrapping headliners. The stuff that comes in a rattle can wont work.
Mines been held up for years by super 77 (from a rattle can).
That said, I didn't do the greatest job and it was a pain and messy. I'll just go to a shop next time.
I used 77 in my old Ti. The trick is to spray both sides (the fabric and what you are applying it to) and let both sit till they are tacky and almost dry.. then put them together
My Escort sagged after only 11 years of Texas heat. I used 88 with new foam backed headliner and it lasted 13 years. Glue was not the problem...the foam is what gave up. Used 88 on a fleece Batman logo blanket fro a headliner on a Ranger about 7 years ago...still fine!
Bruce
The 3M Super 88 is electrical tape. Did they quit making the spray adhesive, or was it maybe 77 that y'all used?
Searching elsewhere I've seen 3M Scotch Weld 1357, or "yellow stuff," claimed to be what a lot of "pros" use a few times. Needs to be brushed/rolled or sprayed with a paint/glue gun, it's not aerosol rattle can. Not cheap, about $185 a gallon.
I've read mixed reviews of everything on the market for the DIY stuff.
Interested. Both of mine are saggy. Blue is bad because of a E36 M3ty botched windshield job, red isn't so bad, but i'll probably just remove that one because i don't care.
My issues with the headliner sagging is usually the foundation material deteriorates so the adhesive has really nothing to stick to.
What type of material are you going to use? I need to do this as well and was wondering what would seem to be the best?
I bought some gray upholstery fabric at Hobby Lobby, I not planning on using a foam back, just getting the fiberglass headliner panel as clean as possible, and using the best (affordable) glue to stick the fabric to it.
I did 3m Super 90 on my Scaturn, it's held up fine even 2 years later. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/planet-mpg-a-daily-driver/60878/page2/
Resurrecting this to see if anyone has any recent diy suggestions. Or is the best bet to have an upholstery shop re-attach the felt in my m345 that just let go an hour ago?
I just glued felt to the inside of my truck topper and did a bit of research on the topic. The most recommended adhesive is generally 3M 90 spray adhesive (green can). They also make a 70 (red can), but the 70 is not high temp rated where the 90 is. I ran out of the 90 and grabbed some 70 because it's the only thing I could find locally (small mountain town). The 90 not only adheres better, it's also much easier to work with. I would highly recommend the 3M 90. It's about $13/can.
In reply to bigdaddylee82 :
Gee sagging headliners haven't really been a problem on Jaguar XJ S Or XJ 6/12 ?
Are you sure the steel rods are properly in place?
I have used 3M 90 and it has started sagging in about 1 year, however that was headliner fabric directly glued to the metal roof so it probably saw more heat than those headliners that attach to plastic pieces that then fasten to the roof.
Would contact cement be a better solution? We may give that a try since it works great on other applications, however it may be too thick and soak through the headliner fabric material.
Near the bottom of page 4 of my "build" thread, you see where I replaced the headliner on the XJ I was asking about in the original post. I used 3M adhesive and some fabric from Hobby Lobby. I kind of grew to hate the XJ, and it's currently uninsured, parked, and growing algae all over it at the property we bought last year. The headliner is still staying put though.
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