minimac
minimac Dork
2/15/09 12:33 p.m.

It looked sharp driving by so I stopped at the dealer to look, up close and personal. The first thing I saw was the engine is made in Mexico. The second thing was it was assembled in Canada. The third thing was the $37K+ price tag. The real turn off was the paint job that was all orange peel looking. $37K and crappy looking paint! I'll stick to my 25 year old 733. I work too hard for my money to settle for mediocre.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/15/09 1:17 p.m.

You didn't notice the aircraft landing on the hood?

I have a problem with a 2-door "muscle car" being longer, wider, taller, and heavier then a full-frame, 4-door, full-size Crown Victoria.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/15/09 1:42 p.m.
minimac wrote: It looked sharp driving by so I stopped at the dealer to look, up close and personal. The first thing I saw was the engine is made in Mexico. The second thing was it was assembled in Canada. The third thing was the $37K+ price tag. The real turn off was the paint job that was all orange peel looking. $37K and crappy looking paint! I'll stick to my 25 year old 733. I work too hard for my money to settle for mediocre.

It's not mediocre, it's just staying true to its roots (cheaply built.) A buddy of mine bought one to go next to his 71 Plum Crazy Challenger. It's not my flavor, but I 'get it.' It's a special car. If they mass produce the crap out of them, that will cease to be the case.

BTW...when I read "Challenger," in a thread title, I expect something a little more $2009.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/09 2:08 p.m.

The caulk was probably seam sealer. You'll find that on pretty much every modern car, and it's applied before the paint. Not usually in globs, admittedly.

fiat22turbo
fiat22turbo GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/09 4:12 p.m.

The engine blocks cast in Saltillo are actually stronger due to the better sand they have available there.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Reader
2/15/09 4:21 p.m.
fiat22turbo wrote: The engine blocks cast in Saltillo are actually stronger due to the better sand they have available there.

Yeah, but it's still less made in America than a new Camry.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/15/09 4:58 p.m.

Dad used to tell me stories of how Mopars were built to a price point even in the 60's and 70's. By "price point" I mean cheaply. It was his perception so I never verified it with anyone else who lived through the period. They were no doubt some of the fastest American made cars at that time. Cheap or not their were/are quick.

Maybe they're just carrying on business as usual? Course, $40k is a bit steep for any car really.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/15/09 5:42 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote:
fiat22turbo wrote: The engine blocks cast in Saltillo are actually stronger due to the better sand they have available there.
Yeah, but it's still less made in America than a new Camry.

Does it really matter where it is made, as long as it is made well?

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Reader
2/15/09 6:44 p.m.
Tyler H wrote: Does it really matter where it is made, as long as it is made well?

Not at all, lol.

I'm just used to getting barraged with "U need to buy 'Mericun!", and the people berrating don't even realize that their stuff isn't built by Americans. When you tell them that the Camry is built almost entirely in the US, then they try to pull some "the money goes to Japan, so U need to buy 'Mericun!"

If I have to make the choice, I'd rather support blue collar workers here in the states than white collar upper management type Americans who save money by outsourcing labor.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
2/15/09 6:54 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: If I have to make the choice, I'd rather support blue collar workers here in the states than white collar upper management type Americans who save money by outsourcing labor.

Troof.

Still--sad descriptions of the Challenger. They continue to berkeley themselves w/ that sad quality control.

Nashco
Nashco SuperDork
2/15/09 7:24 p.m.

It seems you double posted, so I'll copy what I posted in the other thread here, too.

I really dig the new Challenger R/T. Hemi, 6 speed manual, RWD, dead sexy, lifetime powertrain warranty, and $28k last time I checked. I liked them according to the pictures I'd seen on the internet, but with the R/T option allowing manual trans without the SRT ($$$$) package, I've really been intrigued. Unfortunately, I've sat in one (auto show) but can't find one to test drive.

Bryce

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed Reader
2/15/09 7:40 p.m.

Being in the Detroit area I have really been hoping the Big three (or 2?) have learned and decided to change for the better. Sadly, the last two people who have recently purchased American have not had a great initial experience. A friend purchased a Chevy Silverado, a couple of days later it wouldn't go into reverse so now it sits at the dealership. Another friend bought a Ford Edge and it's got some sort of weird electrical problem. If it sits for a couple of days the battery goes completely dead. Dealer can't figure it out and says everything checks out fine. Man........do I hate to hear these stories.

Oh ya.the Challenger. Kinda sad to hear these stories too.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/16/09 7:41 a.m.

¿QUE COSA CONSIGUIO UN HEMI?

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
2/16/09 8:50 a.m.

ha ha John...your espanols is a bit off, but I get the concept.

humorous.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/16/09 8:54 a.m.

I typed it into google and that's the worst I could come up with... There were more correct versions but that wouldn't be funny.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/16/09 8:56 a.m.

By the way, you didn't look at a challenger, you looked at a Dodge Challenger.

I looked at a challenger this weekend:

From Bug of Love and Bug Ugly, the eVil twin.

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