I'm still on the fence about this very nice W126 300SE.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/4081750810.html
I've driven it, and it's even nicer than the ad would lead one to believe. But I'm having second thoughts about going auto for my daily, as great as the car is.
Then this popped up:
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/cto/4149227449.html
It's clean-looking in the pictures and has a proper gearbox. A coupe would be a bit of a drag with a three-year-old, but we'd survive.
It's also a VANOS engine, which seems to give lots of people the heebie-jeebies.
I'm eager to hear what the GRM sense is about these two very different cars.
Well the E36 would definitely be more fun the car if that's a large part of what you are looking for. That is transmissions aside even. As far as for a commuter you probably would get better MPGs as well.
I vote Benz, but that vote is based only on the interior photos. That Benz has the cleanest blue interior ever.
As an unabashed MB 300 fan, I'd have to go with the BMW. 6 years younger to boot!
I use an E36 for my daily commuter. It has a VANOS engine with double that mileage. Just take good care of it and shut it down immediately if you see the temp gauge climbing, and you'll be fine. And my three year old son doesn't mind climbing around the passenger seat to get in back - although with a large child seat, the front seat has to go forward a bit. E36s are about as big inside as a Honda Civic, maybe a little smaller.
pres589
SuperDork
10/25/13 7:58 a.m.
My initial reaction to the MB300 was "hmm, well, I guess that's a quiet place to spend time". My initial reaction to the 325 was "ooooh, now that is pretty". I'm trying to figure out why I'm not looking for something like that, and get rid of the junk I currently drive...
BMW > MB.
The VANOS isn't that big of a deal, especially on these early single-VANOS models. The dual-VANOS is where it really becomes a pain in the ass. Plus, that E36 has the super rare sport seats. E36, hands down, but keep in mind it is due for the cooling system refresh NOW at 96k miles. If you let it go you'll take out the entire cooling system and possibly the engine when the stock plastic water pump impeller explodes.
I would go with the Benz and 80's the crap out of it.
Indeed, those two flavors are very different. I'd decide what attributes of each car were important to me. The decision would then make itself.
Given the 3-year old, I would probably choose the M-B, although it pains me to say that.
I like my BM first thing in the morning, right after my coffee. I usually E36 M3 after lunch too.
maj75
New Reader
10/25/13 9:21 a.m.
BMW!
I just picked up a '95 M3 track car project for $4000 so I vote with my money
The MB has 4 doors, which is almost a deal breaker for me, and an automatic, which is definitely a deal breaker.
Man than Benz is clean. E36's are a dime a dozen and with the exception of a few M3's tend to now be driven by young kids with attitude. Now may be the time to buy one, but the stigma is high. The Benz though oozes 80's cool (is there such a thing?) from it's pimpy blue blood pores. Benz all the way.
oldtin
UltraDork
10/25/13 9:38 a.m.
Mercedes (I'm on my 6th BMW)
The bmw would definately be more fun for you. Will the kid, however, forever associate travel, freedom and adult privilege with being tightly strapped into a cramped place surrounded by black leather?
In the merc, the kid could take deep breaths of wide open space. The blue interior, wood and shiny metal just seem more thought provoking.
I do not understand the appeal of this era Mercedes. Big and heavy with a sluggish auto trans and handling that, while decent for what they are is uninspiring. Even the hot V8's are usually equipped with an auto trans that sucks any fun out of them.
A BMW is generally always the better choice in my opinion. It does everything the Mercedes does, but is a lot more fun to drive and lacks that annoying chrome tombstone grill.
:Rant on:
Why in the name of whatever didn't they drop that stupid grill? The W123 is a great looking sedan from all angles except the front where they just crudely dumped a hangover from the 1930's. It clearly wasn't done in the name of great design work. This was an act of "tradition" and that is usually a great reason why something shouldn't be done
:rant off:
mtn
UltimaDork
10/25/13 1:55 p.m.
I respectfully disagree. I like the grill.
Daily driver? Benz all the way.
Benz probably more comfortable but the BMW will be way more fun to drive. Both are German and out of warranty so expect to spend on maintenance and repair. If you don't spend on maintenance then you will spend MORE ON REPAIR, MUCH MORE!
TxCoyote wrote:
... but the BMW will be way more fun to drive.
OP has a small child. He's not allowed to have fun anymore!
That Benz is a snore to drive
It depends on your commute. If it's like mine, and there is no opportunity to enjoy a sporting car at all then go with the M-B.
If you have the rare fortune to have curvy country roads on the drive to work then you ought to go full-bore and get a Miata or a CRX or an MR2 for something really fun. I'm sure the wife's car can fit the baby seat.