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z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/5/20 9:43 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
2/5/20 9:57 a.m.

not really..  wait 20 years then maybe I'll buy one when I'm 60...

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/5/20 10:02 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

not really..  wait 20 years then maybe I'll buy one when I'm 60...

I thought the more interesting part was that they revealed that in a job posting. Accident or clever marketing?

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/5/20 10:04 a.m.

Not interested until after they deliver the rumored Courier/Ranchero reboot. 

rustybugkiller
rustybugkiller HalfDork
2/5/20 10:08 a.m.

Sales down 4.4%. I wonder how much of that is due to dealer gouging forcing customers to walk away. 

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/5/20 10:15 a.m.
z31maniac said:
Fueled by Caffeine said:

not really..  wait 20 years then maybe I'll buy one when I'm 60...

I thought the more interesting part was that they revealed that in a job posting. Accident or clever marketing?

What did they really reveal, though? I mean, we all knew a new Mustang had to be coming sooner or later, right? They've said over and over that Mustang wasn't included in Ford's carpocolypse, and the current chassis dates to 2015.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/5/20 10:34 a.m.
rustybugkiller said:

Sales down 4.4%. I wonder how much of that is due to dealer gouging forcing customers to walk away. 

Huh? Gouged? 

Here is just one Ford dealer in my area, literally every single V8 Mustang they have on their lot is being advertised at THOUSANDS below MSRP. Even the 2020 GT350 is marked $3500 off.

https://www.metrofordofokc.com/searchnew.aspx?Displacement=5.0&Model=Mustang&pt=2

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/5/20 10:35 a.m.

In reply to Tom_Spangler :

True. I just thought it was weird that the first announcement of release, MY, and chassis code was revealed in a job listing. Seems no one else found it interesting. No biggie. smiley

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/5/20 10:37 a.m.
z31maniac said:
rustybugkiller said:

Sales down 4.4%. I wonder how much of that is due to dealer gouging forcing customers to walk away. 

Huh? Gouged? 

Here is just one Ford dealer in my area, literally every single V8 Mustang they have on their lot is being advertised at THOUSANDS below MSRP. Even the 2020 GT350 is marked $3500 off.

https://www.metrofordofokc.com/searchnew.aspx?Displacement=5.0&Model=Mustang&pt=2

the Roush pricing has an asterisk*

*price does not include conversion

i LOL'd*

*laughed out loud.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/5/20 11:42 a.m.
AngryCorvair said:
z31maniac said:
rustybugkiller said:

Sales down 4.4%. I wonder how much of that is due to dealer gouging forcing customers to walk away. 

Huh? Gouged? 

Here is just one Ford dealer in my area, literally every single V8 Mustang they have on their lot is being advertised at THOUSANDS below MSRP. Even the 2020 GT350 is marked $3500 off.

https://www.metrofordofokc.com/searchnew.aspx?Displacement=5.0&Model=Mustang&pt=2

the Roush pricing has an asterisk*

*price does not include conversion

i LOL'd*

*laughed out loud.

What the berkeley? I didn't even look at that since I have no interest in a Roush car. I clicked on the first one that says $39k..............I clicked through the pictures to see the window sticker...........$81k.

That's some BS.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
2/5/20 12:03 p.m.
Tom_Spangler said:
z31maniac said:
Fueled by Caffeine said:

not really..  wait 20 years then maybe I'll buy one when I'm 60...

I thought the more interesting part was that they revealed that in a job posting. Accident or clever marketing?

What did they really reveal, though? I mean, we all knew a new Mustang had to be coming sooner or later, right? They've said over and over that Mustang wasn't included in Ford's carpocolypse, and the current chassis dates to 2015.

That's my look on it, too.  It's the last car left, I don't see any reason to keep that a secret anymore.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
2/5/20 12:35 p.m.

It doesn't seem like it will take that much effort to put a Mustang body on an Escape chassis...

... Ford, we revolutionized the building of cars... now we don't build any....

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
2/5/20 1:01 p.m.

"Wind/road noise and air leakage plant vehicle team (PVT) engineer."  I think that translates to, "you will be fixing leaky weatherstripping."

 

Reminds me of when I interviewed with Chrysler my senior year of college 40+ years ago, it turned out the job would have been designing windshield wipers.  I'm glad I didn't take that career path.  smiley

Sk1dmark
Sk1dmark GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/5/20 1:39 p.m.

In reply to stuart in mn :

That's exactly what made me realize I wasn't sure the automotive industry might not be for me. I didn't want to spend my time designing one hell of a door handle. Granted, I'm still early in my career (only 2 years out of school) so the temptation is there to give it a swing...

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/5/20 1:50 p.m.
aircooled said:

It doesn't seem like it will take that much effort to put a Mustang body on an Escape chassis...

... Ford, we revolutionized the building of cars... now we don't build any....

Hold up, weren't we freaking out when we heard it was going to be on the Exploder chassis?

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/5/20 1:53 p.m.
Sk1dmark said:

In reply to stuart in mn :

That's exactly what made me realize I wasn't sure the automotive industry might not be for me. I didn't want to spend my time designing one hell of a door handle. Granted, I'm still early in my career (only 2 years out of school) so the temptation is there to give it a swing...

A big company like that will typically give you the benefits and salary to be worth it. Then with a bit of experience, you use that big name on your resume to land the gig you want. 

wawazat
wawazat HalfDork
2/5/20 2:18 p.m.

I'm not seeing anything secret being released.  Ford job posting about the new Mustang.  The timing was delayed but that had been announced too.   Platform sharing was noted two years ago.   What's news worthy here?  New platform nomenclature?  Maybe I've been in Detroit too long?

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
2/5/20 2:43 p.m.
Sk1dmark said:

In reply to stuart in mn :

That's exactly what made me realize I wasn't sure the automotive industry might not be for me. I didn't want to spend my time designing one hell of a door handle. Granted, I'm still early in my career (only 2 years out of school) so the temptation is there to give it a swing...

So you know, there is a lot more to build than door handles.  Some of us spent an entire career working on powertrains.

OTOH, I would not really suggest working in the industry for an enthusiast.  You find out that you are a gross minority of car people, and that they don't make any money.  

 

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
2/5/20 2:50 p.m.

In reply to stuart in mn :

That reminds me of a story one of my Chrysler instructors related during a training session... they meaning Chrysler was rolling out a new model back in about 85?, and my instructor was to just go over it as a demonstration overview so every engineer could see what the end product was as assembled. Everybody poured over it then at the end there was one lone soul left. He walked up looked at it and said to my instructor, "I just wanted to see the TPS I took 6 months to design without anyone else around."

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/5/20 3:07 p.m.
alfadriver said:

So you know, there is a lot more to build than door handles.  Some of us spent an entire career working on powertrains.

OTOH, I would not really suggest working in the industry for an enthusiast.  You find out that you are a gross minority of car people, and that they don't make any money.  

Yeah, and some of us spent years and years designing alternators. blush

There are lots of different jobs in car companies. A few of them are cool if you're a car person. The vast majority of them are just jobs.

 

infinitenexus
infinitenexus Reader
2/6/20 6:34 a.m.

I've been a big fan of Mustangs for years, both old and new, but honestly the S650 won't interest me unless they do some serious work to get the weight down.  3800lbs for a GT?  No thanks, even if the engine is magical.  

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
2/6/20 7:38 a.m.
infinitenexus said:

I've been a big fan of Mustangs for years, both old and new, but honestly the S650 won't interest me unless they do some serious work to get the weight down.  3800lbs for a GT?  No thanks, even if the engine is magical.  

I'm with you 100%

Use more aluminum like the F150s and get the weight down.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
2/6/20 7:42 a.m.

I met a guy who spent 8 years doing outside vendor door handle manufacturing compliance. He moved to the oil industry and doubled his pay. That was a while ago when there were actually oil jobs, so not really a relevant story, but it was interesting at the time. 

As to the new Mustang. I wonder how new it will really be? Between FCA and GM and sales numbers and chassis innovation, it might appear to not be worth it to put a whole lot of effort into it. 

STM317
STM317 UltraDork
2/6/20 8:52 a.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:

As to the new Mustang. I wonder how new it will really be? Between FCA and GM and sales numbers and chassis innovation, it might appear to not be worth it to put a whole lot of effort into it. 

If it is produced on the same platform as the Explorer, it seems like it will be more of a revolution than evolution of the current platform. And since the Explorer/Aviator platform already has PHEV options, it should be relatively easy to implement similar tech in the Mustang moving forward, which has supposedly been in the works for some time.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/20 9:07 a.m.

the good news if it goes on the explorer platform, you might get awd mustangs

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