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Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
11/23/14 5:18 p.m.
mazdeuce wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: "What car should you never, ever, ever have sold?"
Whong answer!

Harsh!

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/23/14 6:04 p.m.

Even harsher for the person who sold it

<- never selling it

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
11/23/14 6:06 p.m.

Most of this thread is nonsense, but I'm not sure how C5Z06 and WRX and 1989 Civic Si are not answers.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
11/23/14 6:15 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin:

One of those is an incredible value and the other two are over-priced, understeering pigs.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
11/23/14 6:20 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: In reply to ProDarwin: One of those is an incredible value and the other two are over-priced, understeering pigs.

The C5 understeers?

Maybe I should specify: STC prepped '89 Si. There are many WRXs worth owning, none stock though.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
11/23/14 6:51 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce:

As much as I loved the 964 I didn't have the sweat equity in it that I had in the M3. When you spend years making a race car then sell it before you go racing... it's a bitter pill. Especially when the guy who bought it came damn close to winning a national championship with it. Sadly... he also dashed it into the pit wall at triple digits sliding in someone else's oil in the bridge turn at NJMP this summer. A total loss. So... silver linings - my first cage build was a success! He was uninjured except for being unconscious.

LanEvo
LanEvo GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/24/14 8:19 a.m.

I've given these answers a few times on various forums...

Q: I want an E30 M3 but the prices have gotten insane and I really need 4-doors.

A: Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 Cosworth.

Q: Affordable daily driver that can handle heavy winter and still pass Porsches on track?

A: Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII or IX.

Q: Best RWD, manual coupe for fun daily driving and occasional track use for under $30k with financing?

A: E90 3-series or 128i through BMW's CPO program

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
11/24/14 8:51 a.m.

Ultimate appliance with long range: Volt or Prius
Ultimate appliance with short range: Leaf or Volt
90s Japanese GT car that will make insane levels of power without Supra pricetag: Z32
Miata but turned up to 11: S2000

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Reader
11/24/14 9:38 a.m.

Cheapest way to carry crap+people and get good gas mileage?

I do think the BG platform cars can fulfill a lot of rallycross/beater/winter mule needs while being cheap, easy and simple.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
11/24/14 10:39 a.m.
BlueInGreen44 wrote: Cheapest way to carry crap+people and get good gas mileage? I do think the BG platform cars can fulfill a lot of rallycross/beater/winter mule needs while being cheap, easy and simple.

Saturn SW2 is just as cheap & light, but with the added bonus of 36 more horsepower and a body that won't rust or dent. Its starting to become a GRM answer to "What obscenely cheap econo-wagon?" threads.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
11/24/14 12:12 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
poopshovel wrote: In reply to ProDarwin: One of those is an incredible value and the other two are over-priced, understeering pigs.
The C5 understeers?

No. That was kind of my point.

See also: My suggestions for the "other" answers on the previous page. Not that the Civic or WRX are bad cars, but as far as VALUE, for a driver's car, I can't think of a better car than the C5 Z06.

fasted58
fasted58 PowerDork
11/24/14 12:25 p.m.

Not "the answer" per se but given the following on GRM worth 'honorable mention'.

AMC Eagle 4X4: not an XJ by any means but for what it is, it does well. Rapidly becoming extinct tho.

S197: With prices coming down, earlier and higher mileage models are becoming more reasonable. Good performance base to start with and a huge aftermarket. Never be a Coyote killer but for the money it's a fun car for sure.

Volt: Well acclaimed here, if the price was just right tho.

Cruze: My wildcard. If the turbo motors hold up I might see this as future Saturn love down the road. Loved the '15 I just drove. Be a great commuter car. Like to test out the diesel.

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Reader
11/24/14 12:50 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
BlueInGreen44 wrote: Cheapest way to carry crap+people and get good gas mileage? I do think the BG platform cars can fulfill a lot of rallycross/beater/winter mule needs while being cheap, easy and simple.
Saturn SW2 is just as cheap & light, but with the added bonus of 36 more horsepower and a body that won't rust or dent. Its starting to become a GRM answer to "What obscenely cheap econo-wagon?" threads.

This is also true.

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man Reader
11/24/14 1:24 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin:

+1000 on the twin-cam saturns for best FWD Rallycross car.

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Reader
11/24/14 1:28 p.m.

I always forget about the Saturns...

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man Reader
11/24/14 1:35 p.m.

In reply to BlueInGreen44:

Me too. For $1000, 124hp and 2400 lbs isn't bad at all.

Powar
Powar SuperDork
11/24/14 1:47 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
BlueInGreen44 wrote: Cheapest way to carry crap+people and get good gas mileage? I do think the BG platform cars can fulfill a lot of rallycross/beater/winter mule needs while being cheap, easy and simple.
Saturn SW2 is just as cheap & light, but with the added bonus of 36 more horsepower and a body that won't rust or dent. Its starting to become a GRM answer to "What obscenely cheap econo-wagon?" threads.

And that's why I just put this together:

Excellent so far after the manual swap.

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