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Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/1/20 11:46 a.m.
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

A Z3 steering rack will help quicken the steering response.

It won't increase the mass going through tight sections, it'll increase the volume. If you're lifting the inside around any corners, go for it. Especially if lengthening suspension travel isn't currently an option. Longer travel and softer springs would be best, but a moderate widening of track with better arms and a quicker rack would be a decent alternative. 

Lifting the inside is a good thing IMO, it means the front end has bite.  Or that you can put power down.

 

Grip on dirt can be the inverse to grip on pavement with respect to what different tuning changes do.  Likewise, the kind of dirt it is make a difference, tacky clay can be a lot like asphalt and tuning changes will be closer to what asphalt likes, but soft loose soil is not.

irish44j (Forum Supporter)
irish44j (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/1/20 8:20 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

A Z3 steering rack will help quicken the steering response.

It won't increase the mass going through tight sections, it'll increase the volume. If you're lifting the inside around any corners, go for it. Especially if lengthening suspension travel isn't currently an option. Longer travel and softer springs would be best, but a moderate widening of track with better arms and a quicker rack would be a decent alternative. 

Lifting the inside is a good thing IMO, it means the front end has bite.  Or that you can put power down.

 

Grip on dirt can be the inverse to grip on pavement with respect to what different tuning changes do.  Likewise, the kind of dirt it is make a difference, tacky clay can be a lot like asphalt and tuning changes will be closer to what asphalt likes, but soft loose soil is not.

meh, I don't really agree there.  If you're lifting anything off the ground, your suspension isn't tuned as well as it should be. The correct suspension tuning allows you to just barely NOT lift at maximum opposite-corner (of the car) grip.

Speaking for RWD, of course. And DEFINITELY speaking for RWD cars with an open diff. Losing rear-end traction looks cool, but it's almost always the slower and less accurate way around a corner.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/2/20 5:07 a.m.

In reply to irish44j (Forum Supporter) :

I am speaking of lifting the front tire.  I have found through painful trial and error that max steering ability is when you are tricycling, on certain surface types.  It's the same effect as narrower tires having more cornering grip, taken it its logical extreme.

Although if you have a welded diff or a really tight limited slip, there is something to be said for unloading the inside rear on turn-in so the diff isn't fighting you.  That will bite you in the ass in mid corner because the bubble you keep the car balanced on becomes extremely small, so it is better to keep both rear tires on the ground and gain turn-in through superior straight line speed smiley

 

 

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