Bob the REAL oil guy. said:You spread sheet people are funny!
That plus this:
and I'm only just scratching the surface.
It's a rabbit hole that would make Alice blush. And, yes, it's so funny that sleepywife also makes fun of me about it. Get in line. 
In reply to sleepyhead :
I like her already!
So based on my ghetto bathroom scale it appears as if the kazzera wheels are between 22 and 23 lbs.
Let me know what you want to do.
You need tires that can last the week, and you need brakes. Everything else is just a distraction from getting those two things squared away.
what I really need is the thing rego'd and on plates...
oh, wait... rego complete! now I just need to stick the plates on the car
step by step, we'll get there
pimpm3 said:So based on my ghetto bathroom scale it appears as if the kazzera wheels are between 22 and 23 lbs.
Let me know what you want to do.
I think I'm going to pass... I've found a pretty good deal locally, that looks like it'll work out (we'll see tomorrow morning).
Alright, my wallet is $100 lighter, and my trunk is ~120#'s heavier...
Now to get the old tires de-mounted, and got to town with some sandpaper... and decide on a color theme for this year
edit: 120grit and an orbital sander isn't too much, is it? Or should I start with 220?
So, I managed to spend about 4-4.5 hours in the garage today. That included sweeping out some leaves, rearranging a bit, doing a "quick wash in the rain" of sleepywife's high school graduation present, and then got the Sonata into the garage and lifted up the front end.
Looks like I have some work cut out for me. It's clear the front bushing on the front lower a-arms are torn. I think I've got a torn outer CV boot on the driver's side, since there's grease flung allover the upright inline with a spot of grease on that boot. Backing down the driveway, I'm pretty sure the front shocks are shot.
Also, I think the transmission is flinging fluid around. The hyundai forums indicate there might be an internal seal to blame? One other option is someother o-ring or gasket, and or the drain plug. Looks like I need to jack the whole thing up a bit higher, yank out the intake, the lower tray, and maybe the battery... to poke around and see if I can find the source... or at least clean things up so I can find the leak after a week of driving.
I also fitted up the Kia Optima 18" I found by chance locally for $100... sorry $99. With the tpms sensors mounted. Although they had some "curb rash"
that's the worst one. At first I thought I'd lucked out, and they just had some kind of gum... or sticky substance on the outside. But picking at it with a flathead screwdriver had stuff flaking off... so then I was thinking it was Aluminum oxidization happening under the clearcoat. So, I took the palm sander and a 120grit pad onto it to see if I was in for recouping my purchase by selling off the TPMS sensors. About 3 minutes later, I had this:
looks like I'm going to be fine... although I'm going to get to spend some quality time with the hand sander and some earbuds, I think. These may end up looking a bit weird on the car... but I figured these tires had zero air in them, and didn't feel like dropping the car to see how they looked. Two pleasant findings... it's real easy to get lugs on these compared to the "deep pockets" on the OEM Sonata 5-spokes. And, these have a conical seat, and my 949 lug nuts were getting 10 turns of thread engagement.
edit: I was thinking that 10turns of engagement meant I had room for a spacer... but running the math again, it's only 2.25mm that's available. So, spacers would require lugs; unless I used adapters.
We've got some family stuff to do tomorrow, but I might try and get the car up again with all four wheels off. I figure I need to check the rear suspension, and then tear into the engine bay a bit to hunt down the where this fluid is coming from.
Nice score on the wheels! No worries about the other wheels.
well, I got an hour and twenty minutes today... so I "upgraded" to the 80grit discs on the palm sander. I took some advice John Welsh gave me elsewhere not to get too wrapped up in perfection... although I'm a little concerned that if I left too much of the paint on there, I'd be fighting the same thing over again after I got the wheels up to temp once. So, I got as much as I could off before the random phone music got annoying.
Then a bit of spritz with some raw aluminum etching cleaner stuff I had around, then a rinse with the hose... and this is what I have to work with:
not perfect, but a good starting point to lay down some... probably black... paint.
The weather's supposed to be nice the next couple of days. So, I may see if these will hold some air, jam the Sonata into the garage and see what two on once side looks like. Then I think I'll push it up into the air and tear into the engine bay some.
When we were getting ready for Ralllycross nationals waaaay back in the day, wheel color was a point of discussion. We decided that nobody wanted to take pictures of a blue Civic on black wheels with white numbers. We decided that orange Plastidip would tie everything together and make the car worth photographing.
So what I'm saying is, if you want people to take pictures of your Hyundai, make it worth looking at.
So if you painted the spokes yellow, blue, yellow, blue, would the wheels look green at speed?
MrJoshua said:So if you painted the spokes yellow, blue, yellow, blue, would the wheels look green at speed?
Maybe? Although I'm not risking divorce proceedings in order to find out... sleepywife has an even more deep seated loathing for yellow than beige
mazdeuce - Seth said:When we were getting ready for Ralllycross nationals waaaay back in the day, wheel color was a point of discussion. We decided that nobody wanted to take pictures of a blue Civic on black wheels with white numbers. We decided that orange Plastidip would tie everything together and make the car worth photographing.
So what I'm saying is, if you want people to take pictures of your Hyundai, make it worth looking at.
So, yes... I have read through this thread a couple times the last few days... and clearest advice seems to be: black hood and black wheels.
Green's not really my thing.
There's some references to maroon and orange... but no photographic proof that those combos work. I'd consider orange... but that's kind of Reg's thing.
So, there's maroon... or maybe some kind of dark blue, which was brought up a few pages back. Guess I need to get some pieces of steel and some spray paint to make up some swatches?
edit: one of the other challenges with this beige, is in some lights it definitely has a pink hue. I've got my work cut out for me
There's a really awesome Saab blue that I think would pop nicely w/ the beige.
Something like this:
In reply to sleepyhead :
Having said all that, I believe we will be on black wheels this year.
In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :
the funny thing is, I told sleepywife "Seth's trying to get me to paint the new wheels orange". she looked at me askance... "uh, I guess that could work." shakes her head... "as long as you don't paint them yellow"
I was merely suggesting A color, not THAT color. I actually think blue might look really good and be properly racecar.
How about Blue spokes and body colored beige on the parts that are currently black. Or the reverse of that.
Minor monday morning update... I've got some research to do, so I grabbed the owneres manual..
2.4#s saved!
also, I found a change drawer:
$3.47 is recoup, plus a DC transit card with unknown value on it!
I would do the center lug area and behind the spokes black or dark grey like stock and clear the spokes. But that's me. I kinda like those wheels without the caps.
Alright, I got about 2 hours in with the car today... where-in I got two of the three undertrays off, the battery out as well as the air box.
Unfortunately, in the process I dropped one of the bolts that attaches the map sensor to the air box... into a spot I didn't see, and that didn't make it to the ground. And I dropped one of the bolts that attaches the ecu to the back of the air box... similarly hung up somewhere.
there's definitely fluid (I think oil) coming off the "transmission" (back, but really driver's side w/ longitudinal orientation) side of the motor. Possibly from a swirl tank? There's a bit of yellow fluid on top of the transmission, directly under the air box... although I wonder if that's soap from the power wash that hasn't evacuated?
The back of the car had a decal on it of "Hilton Head"... and there's clear sandy evidence of the residence. So, that's something I hadn't properly accounted for.
too dark right now to get good pics... maybe later or tomorrow early morning.
I hazard to call this a step forward... it definitely feels almost like a step back. TBD, I guess.
You need to put a couple thousand miles on it. Drive it. Drive the crap out of it. Figure out if it's going to make it or not.
alright, I grabbed another hour with the car... and got it up in the air... maybe too far up into the air, like hard for me to reach in and clean out the top of the transmission.
the transmission is definitely coated in a light layer of brown fluid, top, bottom, front, back. The left longitudinal arm of the engine subframe had some thicker/stickier deposits. The bellhousing on the top has oil, some old some glistening. The yellow fluid I noted in a couple of pockets on top of the transmission settled in the last few hours and now looks like water.
The passenger side axle has a pretty good amount of surface rust. So does the engine oil pan.
I finally figured out what I've been looking at, and been suspicious of, that points up in deadspace above the bell housing and centered between cylinder banks: The Oil Filter. I'm wondering if it's the source of the leak. Although, it's possible I've got some other transmission fluid seep/leak... or the atx got overfilled at some point and it's popping out the dipstick.
Still haven't found my awol screws. maybe tomorrow.
so, in the process of tearing apart the intake system to try and figure out the source of the oil that's bathing part of the engine bay, I found out I really needed an airfilter. So, I got one of those today, and an oil filter... just to have around.
also, I've been doing some maths...
If we assume the car gets down to 3250lbs, and I weigh... well, 200lbs with safety gear, and 60% of the weight is over the front axle, and 70% of the weight can be transferred to the outer tire in a corner...
(3250+200)*0.6*0.6 = 1445lbs.
a lot of the tires tha fit onto the 18x7.5 wheels I scored this weekend are rated at 1356lbs, but if I went up to an 18x8" wheel... then the options would expand and I'd probably have a load-rating buffer. I banged around on this in my off-time, and ended up finding that Hyundai genesi came with 18x8's in some cases.
C/L had a handful, but they were in the "too expensive" range. Then Bob mentioned a KDM-focused F/B group... and for whatever reason that had me remember car-part. Hop on there, and find that a recycler an hour away has several 18x8's in-hand... $88/wheel. So, I loaded up the sleepykids... one of which needed a nap anyways, and now we have 18x8's!
initial pickup pic:
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