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SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/21/11 9:22 p.m.

I've got a '67 'Vair convertible, and have gone through every configuration option in my head.

I've also got an SVX roller shell with a good motor.

Part of me like the Boxer motor instead of a typical V-8 Vair because it is a fabulous motor with just as much power, plus it retains the 6 cylinders. Of course, the GM block in the GM car is a nicer marriage.

I like the classic lines and look, with the modern drivetrain.

But Subys fit in VW's, and Vair motors fit in VW's, so I'm thinking the adapters may be readily available.

I've got a friend who used the Boxer mid-ship, like a typical V-8 Vair (flipped the rear end).

But other options also exist...

The Vair and the SVX share nearly identical dimensions, so there is the possibility of swapping the classic body onto the entire pan of the SVX, leaving an AWD front engine Vair with the suspension of an SVX. Hmmm...

That sounds like a stretch!

But perhaps rear engine version with the engine in the original engine bay would be possible, considering the VW options. This would keep the entire look of the Vair, including the back seat, and keep the 6 cylinders in the back. Kinda cool (though the weight distribution might not be too good), and very simple.

Thoughts? What does GRM say?

Taiden
Taiden Dork
9/21/11 9:28 p.m.

I think you're crazy.

I think that you should do it.

I think we're both crazy.

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/21/11 9:39 p.m.

Do what? There were 3 completely different options there!

Taiden
Taiden Dork
9/21/11 9:43 p.m.

Corvair with the eg33

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar Dork
9/21/11 9:43 p.m.

At one point GM owned a stake in Subaru, so in a sense the swap is still in the family.

I'd vote for the Suby installed in the original 'vair engine compartment.

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/21/11 9:53 p.m.
Taiden wrote: Corvair with the eg33

You're a PITA.

Taiden
Taiden Dork
9/21/11 9:55 p.m.
SVreX wrote:
Taiden wrote: Corvair with the eg33
You're a PITA.

Shove it in the trunk!

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/21/11 9:59 p.m.

Like I said, PITA.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/21/11 10:41 p.m.

Subie Corvair! Why didn't I think of that?!

It makes sense.

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
9/21/11 10:43 p.m.

What would be the easiest way to solve the reverse rotation issue?

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/21/11 10:52 p.m.

Put the Subie engine in the back seat and turn the trunk into a rumble seat! Problems solved.

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
9/21/11 11:09 p.m.

How would you solve the cooling problem, seeing as the original H-6 was air cooled and the Subaru H-6 is water cooled?

Luke
Luke SuperDork
9/21/11 11:21 p.m.

I would like to see the Subaru H-6 in the original position in the 'Vair.

Is there a substantial difference in size and weight of the two engines?

Who's the GRM'er with the crazy LS Corvair, (plus a few others)? I think he used a Porsche transaxle for his rear-mounted V8 swap. That sounds expensive, though...

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/22/11 12:25 a.m.
RexSeven wrote: How would you solve the cooling problem, seeing as the original H-6 was air cooled and the Subaru H-6 is water cooled?

Umm... radiator.

No problem.

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
9/22/11 12:31 a.m.
Osterkraut wrote: What would be the easiest way to solve the reverse rotation issue?

Not sure. How is it generally addressed in Vair powered VW's?

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
9/22/11 1:36 a.m.
SVreX wrote:
Osterkraut wrote: What would be the easiest way to solve the reverse rotation issue?
Not sure. How is it generally addressed in Vair powered VW's?

I'm not sure on the technical details, but I think the VW solution isn't possible in a Corvair, for some reason involving a trailing arm or something.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt Dork
9/22/11 7:46 a.m.
SVreX wrote:
Osterkraut wrote: What would be the easiest way to solve the reverse rotation issue?
Not sure. How is it generally addressed in Vair powered VW's?

I'd probably try bolting the SVX motor to a Porsche transaxle instead of keeping the stock Corvair one - there's adapters for this one and it solves the reverse rotation issue.

VW transaxles can flip the ring gear side to side to be made reverse rotation. Not sure you can do that with a Corvair transaxle.

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
9/22/11 8:00 a.m.

There was a '64 Corvair at an autocross last Sun. It had a V-8 buried well back in the front. Whole new fabricated dog house. I didn't find out to much about the drive train etc. He said he had to do something about the Corvair slow steering. Nice thing, it still had that '64 patina and road licensed.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/22/11 8:18 a.m.

I imagine that the SVX motor's quite a bit heavier than the air-cooled. It's still a fine idea though, and I hope that you do it.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/22/11 8:19 a.m.

Why not just use the Subie tranny? There is a plate available to make it a 2WD tranny

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
9/22/11 8:25 a.m.

Because then he'd have 5 reverse gears and one forward.

JThw8
JThw8 SuperDork
9/22/11 8:44 a.m.
jstein77 wrote: Because then he'd have 5 reverse gears and one forward.

Exactly. Reversing the rotation of the Subie box is possible, costs about $4000

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
9/22/11 8:59 a.m.

I would think a porsche 5spd and a call to Kennedy Engineering would do the trick pretty painlessly.

Taiden
Taiden Dork
9/22/11 9:26 a.m.

just turn the drivers seat around and use this method for steering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsxRiI5jAC8

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/22/11 9:40 a.m.

In reply to SVreX:

EG33 mid-ship with subie FWD trans behind it. shifter will be the most complicated part.

or

EG33 in stock corvair location, IDK what to do about the adaptation or the reverse-rotation though.

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