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Shadeux (Forum Supporter)
Shadeux (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/15/20 8:18 a.m.

What about Tacomas? I'm kinda in the market for a truck. 

morello159
morello159 Reader
5/15/20 8:22 a.m.

Where are you located? I picked up my 2wd F150 super crew for about $15k under MSRP. 2.7 ecoboost crew cab with tow package and extended gas tank. I average about 22mpg in it, which means i can go about 750 miles between fuel stops. It's fast - like, low 6 second 0-60 fast, high 5's on a good day. Resale isn't quite like it is with the Tundra but I got such a good deal i could sell it today for about what I bought it for, 2 years and 20k miles later. 

www.akinsford.com

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
5/15/20 8:26 a.m.

I just bought a Frontier extended cab and recently realized how HARD it is to find a standard cab truck - no matter the brand.

I like Tundras, but the tailgate is as igh as my shoulder.  Big piece of gear.

Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/15/20 9:44 a.m.

In reply to 914Driver :

Standard cab trucks are pretty much only available as long bed work trucks when they are available at all.

 

java230
java230 UberDork
5/15/20 10:06 a.m.

In reply to Shadeux (Forum Supporter) :

IMO the motor they put in them sucks. Hard.

In reply to morello159 :

Im in WA. Need 4x4 tho.

In reply to 914Driver :

They are very tall.... All the big trucks are these days! I may do a flat bed way down the line...

 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/15/20 10:20 a.m.
lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) said:

Not exactly the info that you're looking for, but here's my experience. I've owned several "high mileage" Toyota's and there is a reason for the steep buy-in, they last twice as long as most others. I currently have a 2005 Tundra Limited 4-door with 272k miles and it has never once had a mechanical break-down. Runs like a Swiss/Japanese watch. Not the greatest gas mileage, but when you do an annual accounting, especially over many years, the costs of ownership are lower than the other Big 3.

Agreed.  It's that reason why I've never owned a Toyota truck, but I have owned multiple Chevy/Ford/Dodge.  I just can't afford them.  I always buy used and when I go to shop, an equally-priced toyota Taco/Tundra has at least twice the mileage as a big-three truck.  Buying a 200k mile used Taco is probably just as fine as the 80k Ford I got, but I got the Ford because it was so much nicer.  I didn't want 200k worth of beaten up rusty truck.

Buying new, the Toyota makes sense.  For a little bit more buy-in, you get to replace way more money back in your pocket if you sell it.  If I had the money, I would strongly consider a 2-year, off-lease Tundra.  Someone else took the initial, biggest depreciation hit and it's still an awesome investment.

At my age (46) I'm still in the phase of buying cheap and selling high and only keeping trucks for 5 years or so.  Some day I'll decide that my next truck will be my "forever" truck, and if that day were today, I'd be buying an off-lease Tundra.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/15/20 10:23 a.m.
Shadeux (Forum Supporter) said:

What about Tacomas? I'm kinda in the market for a truck. 

As long as you avoid the years when the frames were rust magnets, go for it.  When I was shopping for a truck, every Taco I looked at had about a case of rattle-can undercoating on the frame.  Big ugly recall for Toyota.  Otherwise, fantastic trucks.  The 4cyl is super wimpy and the V6 isn't a powerhouse,  but they'll run forever and hold their value.

java230
java230 UberDork
5/15/20 10:28 a.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) said:

Not exactly the info that you're looking for, but here's my experience. I've owned several "high mileage" Toyota's and there is a reason for the steep buy-in, they last twice as long as most others. I currently have a 2005 Tundra Limited 4-door with 272k miles and it has never once had a mechanical break-down. Runs like a Swiss/Japanese watch. Not the greatest gas mileage, but when you do an annual accounting, especially over many years, the costs of ownership are lower than the other Big 3.

Agreed.  It's that reason why I've never owned a Toyota truck, but I have owned multiple Chevy/Ford/Dodge.  I just can't afford them.  I always buy used and when I go to shop, an equally-priced toyota Taco/Tundra has at least twice the mileage as a big-three truck.  Buying a 200k mile used Taco is probably just as fine as the 80k Ford I got, but I got the Ford because it was so much nicer.  I didn't want 200k worth of beaten up rusty truck.

Buying new, the Toyota makes sense.  For a little bit more buy-in, you get to replace way more money back in your pocket if you sell it.  If I had the money, I would strongly consider a 2-year, off-lease Tundra.  Someone else took the initial, biggest depreciation hit and it's still an awesome investment.

At my age (46) I'm still in the phase of buying cheap and selling high and only keeping trucks for 5 years or so.  Some day I'll decide that my next truck will be my "forever" truck, and if that day were today, I'd be buying an off-lease Tundra.

I was looking at used ones, specifically 1-2 year old with under 30k. I did the math, and at zero percent its actually cheaper to buy used.... I was specicically looking at a 2019 with 16k on it for 42k

 

I have never bought new either.... Bought my 4runner with 99k on it, its at 275 now. Its been great.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/15/20 10:30 a.m.
java230 said:

In reply to 914Driver :

They are very tall.... All the big trucks are these days! I may do a flat bed way down the line...

 

So much truth.  The engineering that makes them so much more capable of towing and payload makes the frames so thick.  No way to avoid lifting it higher.

67-73 chevy c30 truck frame:

C30 Cab and chassis with 8'8" bed - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet ...

GMT900 K3500 frame:

Sell used 2003 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 HD 4x4 cab chassis flat ...

 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/15/20 10:44 a.m.

I just looked it up.  From this page, factory 67-73 chevy pickup frame specs show that the top of the frame at the back is about 20" off the ground.  That means the bed floor is probably about 24" off the ground.

From this page, GMT900 C3500 bed floors are just over 38.5" off the ground.

java230
java230 UberDork
5/15/20 1:14 p.m.

Well I put a deposit on the Tundra.... 

java230
java230 UberDork
5/19/20 8:00 p.m.

Well I've never bought a new car. But I did a thing today. 200 miles on it now, and it eats the highway. 

yupididit
yupididit UberDork
5/19/20 8:22 p.m.

Congrats!

lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter)
lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) Reader
5/19/20 8:42 p.m.

If that one is going to be a "keeper", I have a suggestion for you. Look at the rockers and do you see all of the rubber plugs? Go buy a can of Fluid Film and spray it in each of the holes. I do it on all of my trucks and I have ZERO rust on the rockers, cab corners or pinch welds. I do the doors as well. I do this once a year at least, it's cheap insurance. Fluid Film is your friend!

java230
java230 UberDork
5/19/20 9:09 p.m.

In reply to lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) :

I'll see if I can find them! I have 4 or so cans of fluid film here on hand wink

 

Edit: holy crap! There's a ton of them! 

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise SuperDork
5/19/20 9:13 p.m.

Congrats 

 

you bought the right vehicle !!!

Cactus
Cactus HalfDork
5/19/20 9:14 p.m.

Cool, I hope it runs till well after you get tired of driving it.

759NRNG (Forum Partidario)
759NRNG (Forum Partidario) UltraDork
5/19/20 9:15 p.m.
Nick Comstock said:

I chose this 

 

Active aero won me over.  That and the rebates.

It's a very nice place to be.  

what's the bullet in this? Can't tell by this photo.....

lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter)
lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) Reader
5/20/20 6:30 a.m.
java230 said:

In reply to lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter) :

I'll see if I can find them! I have 4 or so cans of fluid film here on hand wink

 

Edit: holy crap! There's a ton of them! 


Yes, there are quite a few. This is my 2005 Tundra with 272,000 northeast PA miles on it. No rust at all. I pull every plug I can find and use FF, spraying it in every direction inside the holes. 

 


 

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS Dork
5/21/20 5:03 a.m.

The Tundra looks great in the that color

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS Dork
5/21/20 5:05 a.m.

In reply to Nick Comstock :

Well done. The end of 2018 (as in December 31st) I bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Tradesmen Crew Cab with the Off Road Package. It's my "poor mans" Rebel.

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/21/20 7:55 a.m.
Nick Comstock said:

I chose this 

 

Active aero won me over.  That and the rebates.

It's a very nice place to be.  

The light hybrid version of this is impressive.  5.7 Hemi is no slouch by itself.  Add the electric booster motor and...oh my.

java230
java230 UberDork
5/21/20 8:48 a.m.

In reply to A 401 CJ :

The hybrid certainly is interesting! But I thought that added too much complications. 

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