External slip yoke rear outputs can be left as-is too. An internal slip yoke setup will need to be capped, as it'll leak fluid without a driveshaft attached.
External slip yoke rear outputs can be left as-is too. An internal slip yoke setup will need to be capped, as it'll leak fluid without a driveshaft attached.
As far as the chains driving the front output shaft, you should be fine there, especially if you find a 3/4 or 1-ton 4WD truck which should be designed for much more torque than you will likely throw at it. A manual from a HD truck will be stronger too. The gearing may be unfavorable but then you can just mess with axle ratios. Totally spitballing here.
From 2001-2007, you could buy a 4x4 Silverado with the 8.1L Vortec and ZF 6-speed.
Just throwing that out there 
The biggest issue with one of the heavier truck trannies is that they're pretty slow-shifting. Personally, if it works with your engine choices, I'd find a mid-2000s Dakota or Ram 1500 and grab the Getrag 238 6MT out of it. It'll bolt up to any 6-bolt Jeep / Dodge t-case, so there's lots of options there, ranging from the lightweight (65 lb) NV231 up to stuff that's much stronger than that.
It'll shift a lot nicer than the 3/4 ton and up transmissions, it's fairly strong (rated for 385 ft. lbs. and they last just fine behind 6.4 Hemis in built off-road rigs) and it's got a decent gear spread too (and no granny 1st that would be useless for a build like this). It's also not too heavy (aluminum case). Can't find an exact weight spec, but from what I'm seeing, it's probably around 120 lbs, give or take.
Subarus are easy to use for mid engine RWD applications because of the side output shafts and the longitudally mounted motor. The EG33 may be rare, but the 4 cylinder turbo applications are everywhere.
They can be a little challenging because of the width of the boxer engine- 33", NOT counting the space to pull the plugs. That won't fit between most frame rails.
The Audi Fox also had side output/ longitudal. It is a V shaped motor, so it fits between the rails of most cars. Bolts to most anything VW.
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With a manual truck trans how would you shift? Or would you sit clear in the back of the vehicle?
gearheadmb wrote: With a manual truck trans how would you shift? Or would you sit clear in the back of the vehicle?
It should be possible to build a linkage for it. And depending on how long the vehicle is and where the trans ends up sitting, it may not be all that far to go.
In reply to gearheadmb:
Cable shifter out of a FWD car manipulating a very cut down stock shift lever. The cables will be too short but that's easy enough to deal with.
I was honestly thinking something along the lines of a ford or Chevy V8 auto that has shift kits available or is able to be tuned for firmer shifts. I think that a 6.2L/6L80 from an Escalade or something. A Ford 6.2L from a Raptor or 3/4 Ton. Surely there is some trick trans tuning available for those transmissions. The Fords sound sweet too. I really want to drop that Ford 6.2L into my Galaxie first though. Probably not in the rear though.
Looks bolt on to me
Ford HD
Something like this?
Haha just goes to show that there aren't any original ideas anymore...
gearheadE30 wrote: Haha just goes to show that there aren't any original ideas anymore...
I guess when people sit around thinking of strange things to do to cars for long enough, eventually someone tries all of those possibilities...
Hal wrote: Something like this?
i think thats what he is getting at but using something with IFS, which i guess would become IRS at this point
That seems like it would weigh a ton compared to fwd setup.
In reply to edizzle89:
That is what I was thinking.
And yes it would weigh a bunch. Just spit balling here. An Audi trans with an adapter plate is likely a better solution.
The only real advantage to this over a FWD setup is ease of adapting whatever engine you want to run and that you can likely build a stronger (but heavier) driveline if you want to put a bunch of power through it. Oh, and it looks cool.
Would a V-drive from a boat be a reasonable solution? Cost would be the biggest issue - not sure what the proposed budget is...
Somewhat related- has there been a purpose built "wheelie car" at the Challenge yet?
thewheelman wrote: Would a V-drive from a boat be a reasonable solution? Cost would be the biggest issue - not sure what the proposed budget is...
That's actually a really good idea... If you can make it all mate up, a V-drive from a speedboat type setup would probably work great.
Here's another odd application. Any guesses what that driver reverser might be out of?
kb58 wrote: Here's another odd application. Any guesses what that driver reverser might be out of?
Boat V-drive. I was too lazy to source a pic form my post above...
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