Very Bad Challenge Idea

The Riviera build thread got me looking at how cheap 3800sc powered cars are on craigslist, which led to a slight detour into how cheap 32v Northstar powered cars are, which led to this idea:

-Purchase 1x running 3800sc powered car (~$500)
-Purchase 1x running 32v Northstar powered car (~$500 or less, can be rusty/crashed/whatever)
-Apply sawzall to trunk and rear suspension area of 3800sc car
-Apply sawzall to entire damn front end of Northstar car
-Garnish with welder
-Enjoy your AWD 14 cylinder monstrosity

Bonus points for adding a turbo powered by the 3800 but pressurizing the northstar.

I have no time to do this, but can't stop thinking about it. Maybe next year!

EDIT for even more bad thoughts- the bolt patterns will both match, you get the front brakes from big heavy cars at both ends, the rear seat area might even be big enough for the radiator from the Northstar car, if it needs flares to clear big tires (of course it does) you could use the sheet metal from the Northstar car.

For motivation, I give you the Mosler TwinStar

I think you should be banned for suggesting there are any bad Challenge ideas. Now bad implementation can happen as we saw last year but never had a bad Challenge idea.

Option II:

Buy TWO Northstars...apply sawzall/welder treatment. End up with v16 64 valve AWD monstrosiyy

Option III:

Mount rear engine going in opposite direction. Have a tug of war to see which weld breaks first.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

Sure, I just really like the idea of two completely different exhaust notes coming out of one car.

In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯:

Someone in a prior challenge Mount two completely different four cylinders na escort or something. Didn't they? And actually drove across country to the event?

Where's that bad idea?

"Cheap Northstar." Hahahahhahhaaha...

In reply to Appleseed:

It has to run for what, an hour?

I think we are confused.

THIS car belongs in this thread.

Ovid_and_Flem wrote: In reply to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯: Someone in a prior challenge Mount two completely different four cylinders na escort or something. Didn't they? And actually drove across country to the event?

The Little Lamb-orgini was awesome!

More than just The Challenge, these two guys did the Trifecta of Crap.

In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯:

Since they'll both be automatics you should keep the throttles separate, and just add a 2nd accelerator pedal to the left of the brake pedal.

2-engined cars have been done before. What you need is a THREE engined car. Normal transverse front engine, and a pair of motorcycle V-twins each using a chain to drive one rear wheel. Use a balance-bar throttle setup for steering. :)

In reply to codrus:

And a torsen between the rear engines to keep them from one-tire fire-ing!

This is a really terrible idea. A real waste of time. Usually I'd encourage things like this but I have never seen it pulled off in a way that I would call successful. Sometimes 2 is not better than 1.

In reply to Andy Neuman:

To add to that, The Little Lamb-orgini was wicked fast but wouldn't you know it... It experienced a failure at The Challenge and its finishing position was not representative of its potential.
Like Andy eluded to above, the complexity was both its greatest feature and its weakest link.

That's not a bad idea. This is a bad idea: Grab the smallest/lightest econobox, mount chainsaw engines at each wheel.

In reply to Andy:

I know, that's sort of why it's fun to think about.

Generally speaking, parts count has an inverse relationship with reliability. It's why RVs scare me but rotaries don't.

personally i would skip the northstar due to questionable reliability and just find an ugly/beat up Grand Prix GTP for cheap and dump another 3800SC into the back, it's been done before and it's pretty awesome. Having a subframe that has all your engine/trans/suspension mounts makes things 10x easier. And having 2 identical engines singing in perfect matching RPM harmony is an amazing sound.

If you're looking to do a 2018 Challenge entry, just let me know.

Get two FWD drivetrains, mount them on opposite ends of the car, and have controls on the driver's AND passenger's side. Driver's side gets the front engine, while the passenger gets the rear. For extra stupidity, give the passenger their own wheel for true four wheel steering!

SVreX wrote: Where's that bad idea?

I know, right?

Tony Sestito wrote: Get two FWD drivetrains, mount them on opposite ends of the car, and have controls on the driver's AND passenger's side. Driver's side gets the front engine, while the passenger gets the rear. For extra stupidity, give the passenger their own wheel for true four wheel steering!

Might as well just do the Top Gear Double Decker challenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xd97HeY70

Obligatory twin engine hyundai:

Video

>600whp, 10s in the 1/4.

I recall it did not handle great in the SCC comparo back in the day.