It's a good runner. Been sitting for a while. ..
Includes the double hump heads. Don't know if the entire engine came from a Vette, but the heads did.
I'll be retiring it soon from my 1960 Elky. Great engine, but not enough torque for a car that big. I'll be switching to a BBC (or possibly an LSX).
I was assuming that SBCs did not have a big value these days, but a hot rod friend
Recently told me the 327s are selling at a premium.
Thoughts?
This is one of those things that should be $250, but because there are folks out there looking for specific engines it might go for a lot more.
If you post the block stamping number, it would help. If its a 327 from a Bel Air, it's worth less than a 327 from a Camaro, even though they were the same casting number and mostly the same engine.
I think if you sell it to the general public you can get $500 for it. If you are able to find someone restoring whatever car it came out of, you could probably get $800-1000.
One of the things Chevy did that kinda leveled the playing field on engine prices was that the stamping number included several digits of the VIN for the original car, so there is no real way to get "numbers matching" unless you find the actual car it came from. Contrast that with something like Pontiac which used a two-letter code to indicate the application, so any "YM" engine will work for a restoration on any car that was originally equipped with it.
I think your market is the Restoration crowd, so Camaro, Chevelle, Nova, C10 crowd. Someone who wants the engine to be a 327, not just look like a 327. If you crate it and offer shipping, you might get some Canadian interest. Many of the BOP cars up there (especially Pontiac) got the chevy motor instead of their namesake.
ShawnG
UltimaDork
6/3/21 1:36 p.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
Many of the BOP cars up there (especially Pontiac) got the chevy motor instead of their namesake.
Only if it was a Canadian only model.
Eg: Bonneville got a Pontiac engine but Parisienne got a Chevy engine.
That said, he's right, Beaumonts, Parisiennes, Acadians, Laurentians would be the market for a nice 327.
I thought every 327 was a Corvette engine, at least that's what people selling them will tell you. I'm no expert on Chevys but I think double hump heads were also used in other models - Chevrolet head and block casting numbers weren't as specific as some other makes to identify what a particular engine came out of, but you can look online to get a little more information on what you have.
In reply to stuart in mn :
Yes, double humps were pretty widely used and come in many different casting numbers. The two "good" DH heads are 291 and 462 castings. Very good for 1962 standards. IMO, terrible by today's standards, but there are millions of hot rodders out there who still believe in the venerable double humps. Heck you might get more money if you separate them and sell the heads and shortblock separately.
You'll hear a lot of people call them "fuelie" heads because a version of double humps was used on the Vette fuel injected 327, but in truth, those were the 461 castings and had significant differences from the 462 and 291.
If they are 462 or 291 castings, you can likely get $400 for the pair, $500 if you wait. The problem is, then you have a shortblock that will be tough to sell.
Has it been rebuilt? "Standard bore" blocks bring a little more money. Does it have a factory intake manifold? If so, research the casting number. They can be worth $20 or $200 or more. Factory carb? Same deal. Factory Ram's Horn manifolds? If they're original (check the casting number) and have 2.5" outlets, then $$$, if not, then scrap. Also, '69 327's (and maybe '68's, I forgot) had larger main bearings than earlier 327's. That matters to some people too.
The H.A.M.B. might be a good place to sell it. Traditional hotroders love a high reving small block.
You'd think something with so much lore surrounding it would be worth more but then you think about how common they are and how better parts now exist and you can kind of see it. The way people used to talk about those heads...
I'm a member of another forum with a relatively large percentage of the back-woodiest, rebel-flaggiest, mullet-headiest, coal-rolling-est yokels you ever did see. Great guys, but thank goodness we don't discuss anything but cars. Many of them still salivate over double humps and 010 blocks. Every small block is a corvette small block, and monster cams magically work with smogger compression. EGR valves still rob you of 150 hp in this magical land, and catalytic converters are a conspiracy to ruin the American right to smoky burnouts.
I'll send you a link. They'll lap it up like a cat finding spilled cream.
A 401 CJ said:
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
I'm a member of another forum with a relatively large percentage of the back-woodiest, rebel-flaggiest, mullet-headiest, coal-rolling-est yokels you ever did see. Great guys, but thank goodness we don't discuss anything but cars. Many of them still salivate over double humps and 010 blocks. Every small block is a corvette small block, and monster cams magically work with smogger compression. EGR valves still rob you of 150 hp in this magical land, and catalytic converters are a conspiracy to ruin the American right to smoky burnouts.
I'll send you a link. They'll lap it up like a cat finding spilled cream.
Pirate4x4 ?
Ok, not quite THAT bad. but close.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
I'm a member of another forum with a relatively large percentage of the back-woodiest, rebel-flaggiest, mullet-headiest, coal-rolling-est yokels you ever did see. Great guys, but thank goodness we don't discuss anything but cars. Many of them still salivate over double humps and 010 blocks. Every small block is a corvette small block, and monster cams magically work with smogger compression. EGR valves still rob you of 150 hp in this magical land, and catalytic converters are a conspiracy to ruin the American right to smoky burnouts.
I'll send you a link. They'll lap it up like a cat finding spilled cream.
Taking your AIR pump belt off is like adding a supercharger
Sounds like the kind of place that hounds the E36 M3 out of people for spending $30 when you could spend 28 hours fixing it for $2 instead
ShawnG
UltimaDork
6/4/21 10:19 p.m.
Sounds like the kind of guys who want $5,000 for a used car but won't buy a $50 battery so you can hear it run.
In reply to ShawnG :
Nah, they come in all flavors, sadly.
ShawnG said:
Sounds like the kind of guys who want $5,000 for a used car but won't buy a $50 battery so you can hear it run.
I see your point, just have to ask: where are these $50 batteries for sale?
ShawnG
UltimaDork
6/5/21 8:44 a.m.
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:
ShawnG said:
Sounds like the kind of guys who want $5,000 for a used car but won't buy a $50 battery so you can hear it run.
I see your point, just have to ask: where are these $50 batteries for sale?
Our local battery shop has reconditioned batteries for around that price.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:
I'm a member of another forum with a relatively large percentage of the back-woodiest, rebel-flaggiest, mullet-headiest, coal-rolling-est yokels you ever did see. Great guys, but thank goodness we don't discuss anything but cars. Many of them still salivate over double humps and 010 blocks. Every small block is a corvette small block, and monster cams magically work with smogger compression. EGR valves still rob you of 150 hp in this magical land, and catalytic converters are a conspiracy to ruin the American right to smoky burnouts.
I'll send you a link. They'll lap it up like a cat finding spilled cream.
My experience with groups that value that engine highly is none of them paid much for theirs. Yes you might find the rare guy looking for that, and willing to pay a premium. But how long will you have to wait?
Whoever buys it has to know there will be serious money spent before it's a reliable, something to be proud of motor.
People my age who might find it desirable also tend to be at or past retirement age and willing to shop long and hard before plunking down our money.
In reply to ShawnG :
Not forgetting the mighty Strato-Chief. You're absolutely right, but IIRC we didn't get the Bonneville until 1970, so "real" Pontiacs up here from any date earlier than that have been imported. I do see them around once in a while.
In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :
You called it $500. Elmore, OH
Thinking about back to the mid-90s and a buddy of mine was getting ready to build his first Small Block. He went on and on about 462s, 461Xs and 194s but figured he'd wind up with 882s. Aftermarket heads were off the table and definitely not aluminum ones. Vortec was just then happening on the V8s so those weren't around plus the carbed intakes weren't out. I don't think "Vortec all the blocks" thing (the early 2000s equivalent of "LS swap all the things") happened for a few more years as people found out how good the heads were and GM started selling them by themselves. He wound up with 882s as predicted.