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Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/14/16 2:46 p.m.

Cars like this exist just so rich people can demonstrate to us peons that they can afford to be this stupid.

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man SuperDork
10/14/16 2:51 p.m.

In reply to Duke:

I see it as taking the "Personal Luxury Cabriolet" into the 21st century. Something that feels luxurious, looks en vogue, and has a top that goes down, but now mates those traits to something with a tall seating position and AWD. Nothing really wrong with that.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
10/14/16 3:01 p.m.

They make THOSE but don't make a RWD, manual, five passenger car with a decent suspension?

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
10/14/16 3:03 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: They make THOSE but don't make a RWD, manual, five passenger car with a decent suspension?

Because the people complain about those cars being made, won't actually go buy them new when they are made.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/14/16 3:03 p.m.

In reply to ebonyandivory:

Alfa does, it just won't pass crash testing.

I'm not interested until I can get a Macan cabriolet though.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/14/16 3:08 p.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: In reply to Duke: I see it as taking the "Personal Luxury Cabriolet" into the 21st century. Something that feels luxurious, looks en vogue, and has a top that goes down, but now mates those traits to something with a tall seating position and AWD.

You - and many people - may see nothing wrong with that, but to me, it's like taking grass-fed Kobe beef, lovingly seared to Pittsuburgh rare, and mating it with hot fudge and a cherry. They are both things that are fine in their respective contexts but make no sense whatsoever when mashed together.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UltraDork
10/14/16 3:09 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
ebonyandivory wrote: They make THOSE but don't make a RWD, manual, five passenger car with a decent suspension?
Because the people complain about those cars being made, won't actually go buy them new when they are made.

You got me there!

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Dork
10/14/16 3:11 p.m.

What's wrong with a convertible 4x4? Jeep's been doing it for years

I wonder... What's it look like with the top up?

RossD
RossD UltimaDork
10/14/16 3:15 p.m.

So they made a Bronco/FullSizeBlazer/Scout but posh, expensive, and unreliable for the 21st century. I'd rock it if I could lose $100k and not care.

It's not like you can still buy a new Lambo SUV anymore!

rslifkin
rslifkin Dork
10/14/16 3:15 p.m.
BlueInGreen44 wrote: What's wrong with a convertible 4x4? Jeep's been doing it for years I wonder... What's it look like with the top up?

Yeah, but this one is only meant to drive over speed bumps. And the doors don't come off...

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man SuperDork
10/14/16 3:22 p.m.
Duke wrote:
G_Body_Man wrote: In reply to Duke: I see it as taking the "Personal Luxury Cabriolet" into the 21st century. Something that feels luxurious, looks en vogue, and has a top that goes down, but now mates those traits to something with a tall seating position and AWD.
You - and many people - may see nothing wrong with that, but to me, it's like taking grass-fed Kobe beef, lovingly seared to Pittsuburgh rare, and mating it with hot fudge and a cherry. They are both things that are fine in their respective contexts but make no sense whatsoever when mashed together.

Not exactly. Enough people will buy an Evoque Cabriolet to make it worthwhile to produce.

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Dork
10/14/16 3:25 p.m.
rslifkin wrote:
BlueInGreen44 wrote: What's wrong with a convertible 4x4? Jeep's been doing it for years I wonder... What's it look like with the top up?
Yeah, but this one is only meant to drive over speed bumps. And the doors don't come off...

I bet they gave it the capability to handle more than speed bumps. Someone want to lend one to me? I'm willing to find out what it can handle

tr8todd
tr8todd Dork
10/14/16 6:04 p.m.

Never thought I'd see the day when I couldn't tell the difference between a bloated Mini and a shrunken Range Rover.

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
10/14/16 6:57 p.m.

Why is the average mall dozer Wrangler cool but this is for idiots? Sometimes the line is a little too fine for me to figure it out.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/14/16 7:02 p.m.

I'm curious what's more capable offroad. Land rovers, even the soft ones....are wicked off road. Jeeps too.

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
10/14/16 7:59 p.m.
Duke wrote: Cars like this exist just so rich people can demonstrate to us peons that they can afford to be this stupid.

Fixed that for you.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
10/14/16 8:17 p.m.
rslifkin wrote:
BlueInGreen44 wrote: What's wrong with a convertible 4x4? Jeep's been doing it for years I wonder... What's it look like with the top up?
Yeah, but this one is only meant to drive over speed bumps. And the doors don't come off...

Its a range rover give it time and they will.

Going out on a limb here. I really like it, upright seating, top goes down, flashy but not to much. Will sell a ton of them out here in California.

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/14/16 8:45 p.m.

A convertible Rover? That is such a departure from their past....

Oh.

Obviously there is a market for this and someone will buy them. Maybe not any of us, but I'm sure they'll be happy. So what's the problem exactly?

That you can't afford it?

That they don't make what you want?

That someone has the money to buy one?

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/14/16 8:53 p.m.

In reply to Stefan (Not Bruce):

If it looked more like ^^ that ^^ than it does this it wouldn't be so bad.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
10/14/16 9:29 p.m.
dculberson wrote: Why is the average mall dozer Wrangler cool but this is for idiots?

Neither are cool.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/14/16 9:30 p.m.
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: A convertible Rover? That is such a departure from their past.... Oh. Obviously there is a market for this and someone will buy them. Maybe not any of us, but I'm sure they'll be happy. So what's the problem exactly? That you can't afford it? That they don't make what you want? That someone has the money to buy one?

wish I could afford a Defender...

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/14/16 9:47 p.m.

In reply to RevRico:

That's the thing, it does. In a modern take on the older style of the Range Rover and due to modern safety requirements among many other things, those days are long gone.

Sorry, but that is life.

Rufledt
Rufledt UltraDork
10/14/16 11:13 p.m.
rslifkin wrote:
BlueInGreen44 wrote: What's wrong with a convertible 4x4? Jeep's been doing it for years I wonder... What's it look like with the top up?
Yeah, but this one is only meant to drive over speed bumps. And the doors don't come off...

I bet you one Milwaukee corded Sawzall that the doors can come off.

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/14/16 11:32 p.m.

I will deviate from GRM orthodoxy.

I like it. I like it a lot.

For me, the problem with the Evoque is that it isn't good enough at everything to make me want it more. I'd rather a GLA45 AMG or Macan, because I want a do-it-all CUV with more on-road prowess. If I wanted off-road capability and a drop top I'd go this route.

Maybe in five years, used, at $20k.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
10/15/16 6:37 a.m.

A house here overlooking the #1 tee has a white one in the driveway. In white the Evoque looks cool in a Stormtrooper sort of way.
I think it has replaced a 4door Jeep Sahara edition. At $50k for the Evoque it is probably about the same price as a well equipped Jeep Sahara Edition. The Evoque is probably a much better convertible than the Jeep while still providing all the perceived 4wd-ed-ness that you would "need" for a vehicle for a vehicle that will never leave the pavement.

I see the Evoque also being cross shopped to the likes of a 3 series BMW convertible and in a northern climate, the Evoque is better year round to many consumers.

Like the Jeep Sahara, I would bet the Evoque is leased so the owner has no real concerns about long term reliability.

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