Pool tile has been picked and ordered
and ordered floor for sunroom. Even though won't build sunroom till end of March, wanted to get floor picked out, as I will do smooth stucco on back of house (to make current exterior wall an interior wall), and wanted to pick out stucco color now while I do the backyard.
Stairs and deck done. For those of you following, here is the before and after
That doesn't look too bad at all, congrats!
Antihero said:
That doesn't look too bad at all, congrats!
Couldn't have done it without immense help from all of you guys
scheduled patio pouring on Thursday! 400sq feet
wish me luck
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 2:36 p.m.
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
Looks great!
Suggestion... You need to saw cut control joints into that as quickly as you can. I suggest every 5'. They should be at least 1/3 the depth of the concrete.
If you don't, it's gonna crack.
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 2:41 p.m.
Also...
At every inside corner, you need a control joint. For example, in your first picture, the little tail at the bottom right corner of the picture is definitely gonna break off randomly. Add a control joint from that inside corner to the right hand edge.
Control joints don't stop concrete from cracking. Concrete ALWAYS cracks. Control joints just control WHERE the concrete will crack (and leave a neat, finished appearance)
SVreX said:
Also...
At every inside corner, you need a control joint. For example, in your first picture, the little tail at the bottom right corner of the picture is definitely gonna break off randomly. Add a control joint from that inside corner to the right hand edge.
Control joints don't stop concrete from cracking. Concrete ALWAYS cracks. Control joints just control WHERE the concrete will crack (and leave a neat, finished appearance)
I agree with all this, and diamond blades are cheap nowadays.
Remember when a diamond blades cost a few hundred bucks? Antihero remembers lol
Thanks guys. How long do I have to cut the control joint? Days, weeks?
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 6:09 p.m.
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
Hours.
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 6:11 p.m.
Seriously, they should be cut as soon as possible.
The concrete will develop internal stress cracks as it dries, from the drying process. Though you may not see them, the stress pathways are established early in the curing process. They develop into cracks later.
I realize you can’t do it tonight. But I would get a saw and do it first thing in the morning.
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 6:14 p.m.
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
You are making great progress, and I applaud it. You are moving much quicker than I ever would have guessed.
However, you may want to stop every once in a while and ask “What do I need to know next?” There are things I would have shared (and I’m sure AntiHero would have also) that may have helped, but you moved quickly.
Like sawcutting control joints.
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 6:17 p.m.
Before you pour the next section (which may matter more visually), make sure you ask us about re-entrant corners.
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 6:18 p.m.
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
Dang! Are you for hire??
SVreX said:
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
You are making great progress, and I applaud it. You are moving much quicker than I ever would have guessed.
However, you may want to stop every once in a while and ask “What do I need to know next?” There are things I would have shared (and I’m sure AntiHero would have also) that may have helped, but you moved quickly.
Like sawcutting control joints.
Definitely appreciate that. I work a week on and week off schedule. So for example, starting tomorrow, there will be 0 progress for a week.
Once I get back, and before spring break (heading to Egypt with kids), to do are:
- Pour concrete for Patio to raise it 3 inch
- Finish painting all fence (254 feet)
- Install pool coping
- Install pool tile
BREAK
- Pool pebbles
- Artifical turf (1200 sq ft front and back)
- Front stone veneer
SPRING BREAK
- Build 400 sq feet sunroom
SVreX said:
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
Dang! Are you for hire??
At my skill level, I have to PAY YOU, to let me work for you. Ok, gotta go do the cutting!
SVreX said:
Before you pour the next section (which may matter more visually), make sure you ask us about re-entrant corners.
That section (patio floor), will have a Vinyl 20mm flooring on top. So give it some thought, and give your advice on what to do on that concrete.
The morning would work for cuts, it'll unravel a bit now and won't be the cleanest cut as green as it is
But SVrex has a point, I wasn't even sure if you were pouring today lol
Otherwise I would have probably steered you towards flying your joints with the clamp on joiner I mentioned above
SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 6:34 p.m.
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
20mm vinyl flooring...
I am assuming you mean vinyl plank flooring. I wouldn't do anything different for concrete under a vinyl floor- in fact, I might work HARDER at the finish. Unevenness and discrepancies in the concrete will telegraph through the vinyl and be visible in the finished floor.
I would also double check the manufacturer's specs and warranties for exterior applications for both the flooring AND the glue. The stuff is waterproof, but I've never used it outside, and the couple of manufacturer's specs I just read didn't offer exterior applications. My concern would be the glue could let loose and the vinyl would lift, and probably take the floor leveler with it.
SVreX said:
In reply to mr2s2000elise :
20mm vinyl flooring...
I am assuming you mean vinyl plank flooring. I wouldn't do anything different for concrete under a vinyl floor- in fact, I might work HARDER at the finish. Unevenness and discrepancies in the concrete will telegraph through the vinyl and be visible in the finished floor.
I would also double check the manufacturer's specs and warranties for exterior applications for both the flooring AND the glue. The stuff is waterproof, but I've never used it outside, and the couple of manufacturer's specs I just read didn't offer exterior applications. My concern would be the glue could let loose and the vinyl would lift, and probably take the floor leveler with it.
Yes vinyl plank flooring
they say it's waterproof and perfect for outdoors
it will be the enclosed glass sunroom floor, so not really "outdoors"
I will ask them about the glue
here are the products (we haven't picked color yet) - I still have to smooth out and restucco our back wall to make it an "interior wall", so floor works with that stucco color
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SVreX
MegaDork
2/11/20 7:26 p.m.
If it’s enclosed, no problem