Compulsive liars and bullE36 M3ters... WTF

Most people know one or will eventually. Not talking run of the mill BS'ing as hunting, fishing, horsepower, chasing skirts etc. stories go.

My first recollection was about forty years ago in HS. Maybe I was lucky not having to deal w/ chronic liars over the years each and every day, most were just in passing and I could walk away after the slightest BS attack. Well, my luck must have run out.

About a year ago we had a new guy hired in the shop, we waited over a year for some new blood as our gang was getting older, undermanned and over worked so this is the future here. Didn't take long to figure out he bullE36 M3ted his way in. He laid it on so heavy and often nobody could keep up w/ it, if anything they fed that troll as if in amusement.

Compulsive lying was continuous though whether cars, engines, 4X4's, quads, women, you name it etc. Old enough to know better, nuff said, I'd just pick up and walk away when the lies started, put the word out to not feed that troll. I think he finally realized I had his number and wouldn't put up w/ that BS. He actually made a conscious effort I noticed to restrain himself w/ the lies when talking w/ me. He ain't a bad guy at all, capable, helluva worker, good trainee material fwiw, schmooze the best BTW. What I fail to realize is why a mostly capable guy would have to compulsively lie/ BS about every facet of his life. I came to the conclusion that I could only believe maybe 10 % of anything he ever claimed.

That E36 M3 just berkeleys my mind up, hence this post.

Obviously, there must be many issues deeper than any co-workers can sort out but it doesn't make our working lives any easier. We don't need this kinda E36 M3.

Recently walked away from all that clusterberkeley bullE36 M3 w/ a new dream job. Part II to come. And... there's another one.

Need a break now. Geezus.

Discuss

BBL

You can't apply logic to explain mental illness. By definition, it just doesn't compute.

I've only known a handful of compulsive liars, and when I notice one I try to keep them at a distance. I have also known a larger number of people who will have an earnest, reasonable conversation with you, will come to a decision or agreement with you, then will tell a completely different version of events to the next person they talk to - even just seconds later. WTF, indeed.

maybe I shouldn't have ... but I've known someone like that ... I would encourage him as much as I could ... there were other co-workers that would believe him ... so it was great fun to see them fall deeper and deeper into his clutches ... then I'd walk away trying my best to hold back the giggles ...

I think he realized I was trolling him ... eventually he would just clam up if I was around ... dang it was fun while it lasted

I know someone like that, thankfully I don't see that person more than a couple times a year at most. But they are in my larger group of friends.

I know someone like that - I swear they would pass a liar detector test - they fully convinced themselves of the lie first. Odd.

We had a guy in high school like that and he always told us "no E36 M3" some much when he lied that he ending up becoming "no E36 M3 Larry".

I think my personal favorite was a supervisor a few years back. 5'7" narrow shoulders, feminine hands, pot-belliedguy of about 60 years. Claimed he punched a guy "right between the eyes" so hard the dude did a back flip.

I mean, really??!?

We have a few at work. If we talked about fireworks I'm sure they'd tell us how they've been to the moon.

Working with them is the worst, because you can't trust a thing they did. This is especially bad in science, but I'd hate to encounter it in anything that remotely involves engineering, building, or fixing something where safety is on the line. Don't bother training them; they'll just find new ways to cover things up. Just fire them and burn their work after they're gone.

In the words of George Costanza, "Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie, if you believe it."

Nitrous Fogger Jr.?

The_Jed wrote: Nitrous Fogger Jr.?

Berk yeah! That's being full of E36 M3, personified.

sadly, I have a niece who is a compulsive liar. It almost got her in trouble with the police at age 15 when she almost accused some innocent kid of attempted rape.

We have tried with her, done everything to get her into therapy and the like.. and I would still not trust her to tell me the sky is blue. She lies about -everything-

I hired a guy once that was so entirely full of E36 M3 his eyes were brown. For his last one, he came up with a story about beating up his ex wifes new boyfriend, spending the night in jail, and then having to leave town in a rush, when he had actually taken a job just down the street at the GM store. I knew where he was before noon on the day I showed up to find the explanation in a note, and his toolbox gone.

There are the harmless ones who aren't smart enough to maintain plausibility and consistency, but are just lonely and desperately want to be one of the guys. And then there are the ones who are outright pathological.

My favorite is when you obliquely out yourself as having knowledge of some technical field, and then the font-of-whoppers decides to unload on to you his bizzaro-world intimate familiarity with the subject.

YOU CRAZY berkeleyER! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN??

Never looked back after that last job. Besides that liar there was a Fogger2 where everything turned into a pissin' contest. Total suckass, center of attention type, look at me... I, I, I, me, me, me. Thought only girls done that.

New job is damn near perfect except for that one guy, that compulsive liar. I let a lotta E36 M3 go, lotta E36 M3. Kinda ruins it for me. I can't smile or laugh at the BS anymore ftm, just wanna say shut the motherberkeley up already.

You could never believe anything from this guy. Thing is, he doesn't have to lie for his capability... or is he really? Began studying this guy, no body language or eye movement whatsoever as a tip off... he must actually believe himself. Scary berkeleying E36 M3 there, there's really something wrong w/ that guy.

Do yur berkeleying job and shut the berkeley up.

I have so little tolerance for this kind of E36 M3 or the constant "one-upmanship" that comes with it. This makes me a very quiet person at work in certain settings because I never want to get these dickwads started.

Know a guy like that. Actually someone I might otherwise be good friends with. We have a lot in common and, strangely, he's actually provably pretty accomplished. (I've met BS'ers who are trying to cover for their complete lack of a life, he doesn't need to do that) I will never, for the life of me, figure out why everything has to be coated in 3 inches of bovine fecal matter. I try not to spend time around him as a result.

My friend starting doing something VERY funny when the one up thing happens. He goes one down.

For example:

(Stupid E36 M3head says): Oh man, I saw this horrible 30 car accident with multiple fatalities on the way to work...

(My Friend says): I had a flat tire once.

it usually stops the conversation immediately.

often my response, after listening to their BS for as long as I can take it is ... "oh well ... whatever" and then walk away, or turn away and ignore anything else they have to say ... for as long as it takes for them to get the message and move on to their next victim

eventually, after enough "whatever" I actually somehow get through to them ... and they realize that I've seen through their lies and BS ... not often, but I have seen it actually get through ... and then anytime they start with something we both know they haven't a clue ... all I have to do is look at them with a raised eye brow ...and they have stopped mid-sentence

FTMFW BABY

sirrichardpumpaloaf wrote: I have so little tolerance for this kind of E36 M3 or the constant "one-upmanship" that comes with it. This makes me a very quiet person at work in certain settings because I never want to get these dickwads started.

I can't understand the mentality at all. You WILL be called out eventually. You WILL do nothing but make yourself look like a fool instead of looking better. Facts are not a "fake it until you make it" thing, and you can't define your own personal reality and expect it to stick in the real world. (The real world's a bitch that way, it's right whether you are or not)

However your post reminded me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xe1a1wHxTyo

Smile and nod at the BS, he was hired to do a job. If he isn't living up to the Resume' maybe it's time to document and counsel.

Then find a replacement ....

Grew up with a kid in my neighborhood a couple years older who was a pathological liar, like every single thing out of his mouth was some completely fantastic BS. "Michael Jordan is my cousin and sends me free dog food." Ok yea, that's completely believable when you're a pale assed ginger. I can understand it at least somewhat when you're an insecure ~10 year old kid with some family issues, but here we are 20 years later and he's still doing the same E36 M3 when I run into him every once in a blue moon.

Another guy at work, who I'll sometimes refer to as Captain Napoleon Complex, doesn't lay it on nearly as thick but still feels the need to embellish pretty much everything he does. Combine that with some of his other personality traits and I really can't deal with him unless I'm in the most jovial of moods.

I've dealt with plenty of others as well, these are just the first two that come to mind. Really can't stand these types.

Our President? Too soon?