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JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
11/1/14 7:51 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skpu5HaVkOc

I think I've finally come to terms with the fact that these are stupid, live action cartoons, and I'm okay with that. The dialogue is entirely made up of rage-whispered one-liners and the sound of guns cocking, and no one ever, ever looks at an explosion, but I've learned to accept all that. These are the movies that were storyboarded on the back of my notebooks in homeroom in 7th grade.

Plus, if you can't manage a guilty smile when The Rock "Dwayne" Johnson rage whispers "Daddy's got to go to work" then FLEXES HIS CAST OFF then you're dead inside.

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
11/1/14 7:57 p.m.

i'm not ok with it... i've seen the first 3, and the only part of any of them that i can actually remember was the first part of the Tokyo one where the Viper (i think???) and the Monte Carlo were tearing thru a housing development. and that's only because that Monte was Teh Shizz...

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/1/14 8:03 p.m.

You know a lot of our favorite car movies are really crap. Smokey & the Bandit, Vanishing Point, Mad Max? Corny and cheesey. We love them anyway. I promise we'll look back on The Fast & The Furious in 20 years with extreme nostalgia. I promise.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
11/1/14 8:13 p.m.

I like them. They're mindless entertainment, with cars, most of which are cool. And I like Vin Diesel. I watch his movies as they become available.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
11/1/14 8:22 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: I like them. They're mindless entertainment, with cars, most of which are cool. And I like Vin Diesel. I watch his movies as they become available.

Yeah, me too. I think he gets a bit of a bad rap because he does a lot of the "punch first, ask questions later, say a one-liner in the middle" kind of cheeseball stuff, but whatever pays the bills, man. I guess most of his training is as a screenwriter and the acting thing just sort of came along later. And apparently the guy puts a lot of personal money into helping friends from his theater past produce their projects and get their careers rolling.

Plus he lives his life a quarter mile at a time, and I can't fault a guy for that.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
11/1/14 8:44 p.m.

In reply to JG Pasterjak:

His movies tend to get Mrs 'Maro all worked up.

Usually I'm in for a fun apres-movie if we go to one of his films.

chuckles
chuckles HalfDork
11/1/14 8:51 p.m.

The trailer gives you the feeling there couldn't be much left to pay admission for.

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
11/1/14 9:11 p.m.

I am unapologetically looking forward to that.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/1/14 9:13 p.m.

Nothing to add other than JG nailed the subject line for this thread.

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
11/1/14 9:50 p.m.

Somehow, I am immune to the charms. I just think they're stupid from start to finish. Maybe an age thing. And Vin Diesel is the stupidest lump of repressed homosexuality I've ever seen. The Rock is cool though.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
11/1/14 9:55 p.m.

I'm not much for the FF movies but Vin Diesel is awesome as Riddick.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid PowerDork
11/1/14 10:26 p.m.

I enjoy them. After I saw 6, I could see that they went from car movie with some action to action movie with some cars.

They're mindless and that doesn't bother me.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/1/14 10:30 p.m.

I need to catch up on these...I think I've only seen the first two. This looks hilariously awesome

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/1/14 10:36 p.m.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I enjoy them. After I saw 6, I could see that they went from car movie with some action to action movie with some cars. They're mindless and that doesn't bother me.

Yep. The last one was the best with the "airplane taxiing" scene that went on for 20 minutes. Must have been the world's longest runway.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
11/1/14 10:46 p.m.

The movies are generally goofy action movies that sort of forces cars into some of the action. They at least seem to pick some pretty interesting cars (at least in the last one).

The issue I have with the recent ones (and with many other movies) is that they use WAY to much CG animation in the action scenes! As a result the create WILDLY over the top action stunts (apparently just because then can) that are in NO way believable. Rather then say "wow, that was a cool stunt" you react to it much the way you would when you see Mario make a big jump to save the Princess.

I worry that people will get so used to that type of action that ACTUAL action shots will appear silly to the general viewer. I have a feeling if the re-created Bullit, the race scene would be CG... argh...

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
11/1/14 10:48 p.m.

In reply to Tom_Spangler:

Someone actually calculated out the distance they would have covered in real life and it was something like 26 miles I think. This franchise has come a long way in 15 years haha.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
11/1/14 11:04 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote:
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I enjoy them. After I saw 6, I could see that they went from car movie with some action to action movie with some cars. They're mindless and that doesn't bother me.
Yep. The last one was the best with the "airplane taxiing" scene that went on for 20 minutes. Must have been the world's longest runway.

The drag race in the first one was pretty long too. Also some of the "10 second cars" were turning what seemed like 30-second to 1 minute 1/4 miles @ Race Wars.

Edit: The street race is 1:58 long. That's some serious distance blocked off. The scene with Michelle Rodriguez @ race wars is 24 seconds long. She doesn't hit the NAAAWWWWZZZZZZ!!!! until ~14 seconds in.

nepa03focus
nepa03focus HalfDork
11/1/14 11:14 p.m.

I'm not going to lie I'll watch it when it gets to hbo or whatever, and now the transporter is in it! Awesome

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
11/1/14 11:31 p.m.

I'm in. E36 M3 blows up, cars go fast.

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
11/1/14 11:32 p.m.

I used to dislike these, until my wife bought the box set and started watching them. She likes them. After watching them a few times, I now find them funny and somewhat entertaining. We'll see the new one I'm sure. If they add any more action heroes the F&F franchise will be like the expendables.

@Aircooled, many of the F&F stunts are real. Some of the ones that you would think must be CGI they actually did. The DVDs have special features about some of them.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
11/1/14 11:42 p.m.
T.J. wrote: ...@Aircooled, many of the F&F stunts are real. Some of the ones that you would think must be CGI they actually did. The DVDs have special features about some of them.

I am really more referring to the stunts like the one shown in the trailer above, just silly unrealistic and in my opinion not nearly as interesting as the less spectacular but real stunts/action that you are talking about.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
11/2/14 5:48 a.m.

I tried to watch the first couple of them and just couldn't, I guess my failing is that I am not willing to suspend disbelief. Then add that corny 'danger to manifold' type crap and I'm clickin' the remote. The acting is (to me) pretty atrocious and Vin Diesel's character is too much like Rambo.

I gotta admit, it would be cool to flex off a cast though!

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/2/14 7:17 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: You know a lot of our favorite car movies are really crap. Smokey & the Bandit, Vanishing Point, Mad Max? Corny and cheesey. We love them anyway. I promise we'll look back on The Fast & The Furious in 20 years with extreme nostalgia. I promise.

Mad Max was as much a car movie as Ronin was.

By which I mean, there was actually an important story going on, but us mentally addled people tended to miss that because OMG look at that Monaro/Falcon/Peugeot/M5/etc...

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/2/14 7:22 a.m.
ProDarwin wrote: The drag race in the first one was pretty long too. Also some of the "10 second cars" were turning what seemed like 30-second to 1 minute 1/4 miles @ Race Wars.

Have you ever watched Initial D? A 4 second hairpin turn might take 15 seconds of real-time driving and 30 more seconds of slow-mo internal dialogue. A 5 minute race will take three 24 minute episodes, of which 4 minutes each is beginnning/ending credits and 5-10 minutes each is recapping the previous episode.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
11/2/14 7:25 a.m.

Haters gonna hate. Theyre silly, turn-off-reality movies, that just make pretty cars do funny things, with brodozer meatheads flexing and mean mugging everything with a pulse...and I am glad they do it.

I wont see it in a theater, but I will get it on blu ray. It will go next to the other 6 on my shelf. Remember the buster

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