Driving

It's not difficult as long as you follow the rules of the road and are courteous towards other motorists.

Be excellent to each other.

Only if the other E36 M3 head is too.

I like to piss people off by being courteous at them. "Oh here, look, I am using my turn signal and looking where I am going BEFORE I go there, in stark contrast to your unannounced lurching into another lane. Look at this turn signal blinking. Blink signal blink. See what it is doing? It is announcing that I request to change lanes. Oh, look, traffic is making room! Amazing how people work together. CLUE CLUE CLUE"

I also like to be courteous in general because society can be condensed down to an unritten pact to tolerate each other and in return be tolerable. To get you gotta give.

As long as your courtesy doesn't extend to stopping for jay walkers, or waving me through when you have right of way, I'm good. Courtesy that breaks the law is one of the things that makes me spin in my bed.

Streetwiseguy wrote: As long as your courtesy doesn't extend to stopping for jay walkers, or waving me through when you have right of way, I'm good. Courtesy that breaks the law is one of the things that makes me spin in my bed.

Precisely why I said follow the rules of the road, AND be courteous towards other motorists.

Please go the berkeleying speed limit. Not 10 under.

failboat wrote: Please go the berkeleying speed limit. Not 10 under.

Another one of my pet peeves. Even despite my attempts to go the speed limit, Today I got passed while I was doing the speed limit (30 MPH) in a residential zone.

In reply to G_Body_Man:

Probably thought you were about to park. 30 is what bicycles do in residential areas. Get with the program, son.

Traffic laws are generally codified common sense and general courtesy, but by and large speed limits are just revenue stream and probable cause for vehicle searches.

It's somewhat bothering because I need to keep a clean driving record, but at the same time, if I know an area is unpatrolled, I'll just drive whatever the hell I please. If anything, this is bein even more polite because I'm getting the hell out of everyone else's way.

At least Ohio has been ratcheting the speed limits up to where "what feels comfortable" is actually legal. Scuttlebutt is that we may get 75mph soon. As it is, bumping the limit up to 70 has mainly reduced the number of people breaking the law as well as decreased the amount of speed difference on the roads.

As a BMW driver, I feel compelled to atone for my bretheren's misdeeds. I'm excessively courteous in most cases, particularly to commercial drivers.

Knurled wrote: Traffic laws are generally codified common sense and general courtesy, but by and large speed limits are just revenue stream and probable cause for vehicle searches. It's somewhat bothering because I need to keep a clean driving record, but at the same time, if I know an area is unpatrolled, I'll just drive whatever the hell I please. If anything, this is bein even more polite because I'm getting the hell out of everyone else's way. At least Ohio has been ratcheting the speed limits up to where "what feels comfortable" is actually legal. Scuttlebutt is that we may get 75mph soon. As it is, bumping the limit up to 70 has mainly reduced the number of people breaking the law as well as decreased the amount of speed difference on the roads.

yes and no.. I totally agree with 25mph in a residential area. With that many cars coming and going from driveways and people's homes.. kids playing, bicycles, and pets.. anything faster than that is asking for you to hit something.

Around here, if a road is unmarked for speed.. it is 45mph.

State highways, unless restricted access.. are 50mph, restricted access can be up to 65mph.. most people are lucky they can drive safely at that speed.

mad_machine wrote: yes and no.. I totally agree with 25mph in a residential area. With that many cars coming and going from driveways and people's homes.. kids playing, bicycles, and pets.. anything faster than that is asking for you to hit something.

Oh, don't get me wrong at all... residential areas? Absolutely. But then residential areas generally don't have "traffic" either.

really? I guess living in NJ has me seeing more traffic more than most.. after all, we are the State of 1200 people per square mile.. and half the state is technically "empty" due it being state forestry lands, wetlands, or mountains.

So around here, residential areas have a lot of traffic

I used to live on a residential side street that got lots of traffic blasting through at 35 or 40. It was one block away from a big busy intersection. We had people ripping through though trying to get around the congestion at the intersection. Our neighbors with children were justifiably irritated by this. After watching this for a few months, I made it a rule that I drive the speed limit in residential areas no matter how late I might be.

In reply to mad_machine:

There is a road that my old job was on. It's just a regular old two lane with houses on the left and right. Once you leave the heart of downtown the speed limit goes up to 50 then 60 then 75. There is one little cluster of houses where it drops down to 60 again for about a quarter mile, then back up to 75. Two lane heavily traveled road with traffic barreling towards each other at 75mph (that's a closing speed of 150 folks) with houses and driveways and intersecting roads all along it.

But the brand new, lightly traveled, four lane divided highway with no houses and only two intersecting roads that goes to my new job? 50...50 stupid mph. Yep, they have two motorcycle cops out there who are busy from daylight till dark keeping everyone safe. They don't even bother turning the lights off anymore, as soon as they are done writing one ticket they walk back to the bike look down at the radar, jump on and pull the next customer over.

It beats all I've ever seen.

If you want people to slow down in your neighborhood, buy a go pro, get a watermelon and put it in a baby carriage. Throw it in front of every fast moving car for a week.

In reply to G. P. Snorklewacker:

Do you think a watermelon in a baby carriage would last a week under those circustances?

Knurled wrote: Be excellent to each other.

And...PARTY ON, DUDES!

Drive fast.

Take chances.

Get off the roads quick before the crazy people get you!

I do the limit, or less, on residential side streets, it's not worth the chance of killing some dumb kid that runs into the road. Same goes for parking lots. Anywhere else in the city I tend to be around the 3rd fastest car in sight, I like to keep ahead of the pack between the lights, safer and better gas mileage (time the lights) that way.

failboat wrote: Please go the berkeleying speed limit. Not 10 under.

It's a limit, not a minimum.

I love it when the driver (always the one holding you up) is going 45 in a 55 mph zone and you can't find a safe place to pass. Then when you get into town and the speed limit drops to 45, then to 35 mph they are still going 45! It's like they only know how to go 45 miles per hour!

I'm talking about in a subdivision. 30 MPH makes perfect sense when there is the chance that there are cars backing out and jaywalkers around every turn.

foxtrapper wrote:

failboat wrote: Please go the berkeleying speed limit. Not 10 under.

It's a limit, not a minimum.

The sign says Speed Limit 45. It doesn't say whether it is the upper limit or lower limit.