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joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
1/16/10 1:48 a.m.

When we fill out the census, how about we don't mark anything for race, except "other", and write in American, whether we are black, white, Hispanic, Asian or whatnot? It's the truth, right? I don't know alot of my background for fact, so I could have a little of any of those options.

Howbout it?

Joey

Jay
Jay Dork
1/16/10 4:26 a.m.

I'm not an American.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
1/16/10 7:35 a.m.

but we have to segregate ourselves somehow!

billy3esq
billy3esq Dork
1/16/10 7:47 a.m.
joey48442 wrote: When we fill out the census, how about we don't mark anything for race, except "other", and write in American, whether we are black, white, Hispanic, Asian or whatnot? It's the truth, right?

You're confusing race (a genetic identification) with nationality (a geopolitical identification) and/or ethnicity (a cultural identification).

I agree with the sentiment, though. I'd prefer a box that says something like "None of your Business" or "What's it matter?"

Honestly, if the question is race the choices should be drag, oval, or road.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
1/16/10 9:07 a.m.

I check other and write "Irrelevant".

z31maniac
z31maniac Dork
1/16/10 9:08 a.m.

I've always though African-American, et al, were rediculous for people that were born in America.

But if you want to segregate yourself, then call foul, I'm not listening.

Henceforth, I would like to be referred to as an English-German-Cherokee-American.

mel_horn
mel_horn Dork
1/16/10 9:21 a.m.

Does any other nation refer to its folks as, say, African-Canadian or Arab-German ?

captain_napalm
captain_napalm Reader
1/16/10 9:40 a.m.
mel_horn wrote: Does any other nation refer to its folks as, say, African-Canadian or Arab-German ?

I've seen the term "Afro-Peruvian" used, but for the most part, it's broken down to moreno (black), blanquito (white), and indio (indian, what are known as "native americans" here)

Appleseed
Appleseed Dork
1/16/10 9:48 a.m.

I hate checking the box. Should my race matter? In this country ?

If they had a box marked "cracker ass cracker" I'd feel better.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/16/10 10:09 a.m.

You don't have to answer you know.

I always choose the Eskimo option because I feel they are underrepresented.

jgp1843
jgp1843 HalfDork
1/16/10 10:19 a.m.

Back when I was still working (now retired) - for the US Department of the Interior, actually - I always used to fill in such questions as Celtic-American. The guy who had the desk next to mine was a little more direct. He used Hun.

I write about the history of the American West, and sometimes have the opportunity to hear Indian tribal leaders speak. Pretty much universally they say their people think "native American" is silly, even funny. As they told me, "where were you born? Doesn't that make us both natives?". They prefer to be referred to by name of tribe, ie Lakota or Cheyenne, or as one said ""My name is Adam - that works for me."

JeepinMatt
JeepinMatt HalfDork
1/16/10 10:38 a.m.

My friend in high school told me that when his friend, white but born in South Africa, was filling out papers for grants, he sent them in and marked African-American. He got one (not a huge one), but when they found out, they took it away.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
1/16/10 10:45 a.m.

I believe African American was "created" by Jessie Jackson, that should tell you all you need to know.

I remember someone using the line "No, I'm not French, I'm Jewish"... uhhh?

"Are you Drewish... funny, you don't look Drewish"

SkinnyG
SkinnyG Reader
1/16/10 11:23 a.m.

I'm a pure-bred Canadian mutt. Proud of it too, eh?!

aeronca65t
aeronca65t HalfDork
1/16/10 11:24 a.m.
aircooled wrote: I believe African American was "created" by Jessie Jackson, that should tell you all you need to know. ....

Where did you "hear" that?

mel_horn
mel_horn Dork
1/16/10 11:33 a.m.

(From Wikipedia)In this same period, a smaller number of people favored Afro-American. In the 1980s the term African-American was advanced on the model of, for example, German-American or Irish-American to give descendents of American slaves and other American blacks who lived through the slavery-era a heritage and a cultural base.[121] The term was popularized in black communities around the country via word of mouth and ultimately received mainstream use after Jesse Jackson publicly used the term in front of a national audience, subsequently major media outlets adopted its use.[121] Many blacks in America expressed a preference for the term, as it was formed in the same way as names for others of the many ethnic groups in the nation. Some argued further that, because of the historical circumstances surrounding the capture, enslavement and systematic attempts to de-Africanize blacks in the United States under chattel slavery, most African Americans are unable to trace their ancestry to a specific African nation; hence, the entire continent serves as a geographic marker. (Uses this as a reference): http://books.google.com/books?id=xoZ0POyF2YkC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=jesse+jackson+african+american+cultural+base&source=bl&ots=nEFSRzdT4Z&sig=oQ2lSr7NwQtkRTBDzLrv-c9WFIU&hl=en&ei=blsOSqudNOawtgfcu_iGCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro HalfDork
1/16/10 11:41 a.m.

We had a white kid from South Africa helping us out in the shop for a while.

One day a customer got pissed because we forgot to order his parts. The boss told him "Sorry, we've got a kid from a thrid-world country helping us out and sometimes he makes mistakes"

The guy mellowed out right waya and said "That's ok I guess, just get it done this time."

I guess he figured we had little 'Ndugu from the World Vision ads in the back.

Shawn

aeronca65t
aeronca65t HalfDork
1/16/10 11:46 a.m.

Thanks for that Mel.......but it says he used it publicly and not that he "created" it (which was my point).

I had already looked at that Wiki before my comment.

daytonaer
daytonaer Reader
1/16/10 12:20 p.m.

I mark "other"

Irish

CagleRacing
CagleRacing New Reader
1/16/10 12:25 p.m.

During the last Census, someone locally listed their pet cat as person. A few years later, the cat was ordered to serve jury duty. I think a lot folks will pass on the Census if the data is being used for jury duty candidates.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/16/10 12:44 p.m.

I usually claim Indian.. even though I am two steps removed from behing able to claim tribal status.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG Reader
1/16/10 2:32 p.m.

Other: Zombie

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
1/16/10 2:34 p.m.

How about Meat Popsicle?

Johnboyjjb
Johnboyjjb New Reader
1/16/10 3:16 p.m.

Human. Nice and simple.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
1/16/10 4:06 p.m.
JeepinMatt wrote: My friend in high school told me that when his friend, white but born in South Africa, was filling out papers for grants, he sent them in and marked African-American. He got one (not a huge one), but when they found out, they took it away.

I've heard of that type of thing. Seems like a sure-shot lawsuit to me.

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