I find the dissent compelling

the dissentors are right, tho, this isn't a constitutional or even a civil rights victory.

what SHOULD have happened to make it one is that there should have been some type of 'civil union' law passed to give equal access to something demonstrably unavailable to gays thru current channels that is only available through marriage.

THEN, that should have been challenged as separate but not equal with demonstrable examples, a-la Brown VS Board.

THAT would have been a civil rights victory.

No argument the process has declined to a low that hasn't been seen for a while. Seems the rationale for decisions (pro and con) is drifting a bit. They say it's designed to be a messy system.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/full-episodes/uzokdu/june-29--2015---taylor-schilling

Beer Baron wrote:

SVreX wrote: So you consider it wimpish because I made it clear that I was not interested in partaking in a juvenile E36 M3fest?

It is wimpish to start something you know will degrade, and not be willing to put your voice on the line to defend a position, or at least offer to act as a moderator.

I NEVER post anything I know will degrade. I think much more of everyone around here than that.

It is not wimpish to offer no blabbety-blab nonsense noise on a subject I know very little about. I took a position. I said I find the dissent compelling.

It is often much wiser (and harder) to just listen.

Sorry you don't like that. If you'd rather just argue, try the Vortex.

I have no problem moderating. I do it often. Don't be shocked when I do it silently.