Streetwiseguy said:I find it amusing that Neil Young, who sings with Neil Young's voice, is concerned about sound quality.
No kidding.
Streetwiseguy said:I find it amusing that Neil Young, who sings with Neil Young's voice, is concerned about sound quality.
No kidding.
His music content was good, his singing voice was very meh to me. He's an angry old man. Nothing to see here.
Change with the times or get left behind. Hell, even Metallica - once the stalwarts against digital music have more or less given in - they now have a popular YouTube channel and upload pro-shot videos from recent shows.
As far as complaining about ticket prices - get over it. As mentioned, artists don't make money selling music anymore, so they have to make money by touring. It used to be an artist toured to support and album. Now an artist releases and album as a reason to tour. Metallica have pretty much been on tour since Hardwired was released almost 3 years ago.
Most people are not listening to music through high quality speakers, so I'm not sure what difference the recording quality really makes. It's still better than old cassette tapes.
In reply to Ian F :
My only problem with ticket prices is 100% related to Ticketmaster/Live Nation, their “fees”, the fact they willingly allow scalper-bots to buy out shows before real people/concert goers get a chance, and how they have a complete monopoly on anything larger than small local venues & shows.
There’s been dozens of acts pass through here over the last 4 years that’s I’d loved to have seen, but when I put ~$70 worth of tickets in my cart and the total ends up being $130 I have a real berkeleying problem with that.
In reply to Pete Gossett :
This. I want my favorite bands to get paid. Very much so. I think they deserve it. I don't know how Ticketbastard skirts anti-trust laws. Berk them.
Ummmm, so the artist makes some percentage of every dollar sold. But there are also plenty of other people working to make sure that song gets sold. People recording the music, engineering it. Writing the songs. Somebody has to engineer and produce the recording equipment. Somebody has to manufacture the delivery devices like CDs.
So why do we not want those people to make money too?
Who asks how much of the store revenue goes to the cashier at home Depot? Who asks how much of the TV revenue goes to the quarterback?
How is music any different than any other industry?
But Neil, I agree with you. No one helps you do what you do, you never got lucky once in your life, and you definitely aren't paid enough.
Gonna go ahead and say it. I can tell you the bitrate of an mp3, and i have certified hearing damage. While most people and equipment cnt tell a differince, I sure as hell can. Bluetooth streming sounds like white noise to me. Maybe some folks just hear differently, but its there.
P.s. talking about anyone like you are neil is bad juju. Be nice, that old cranky berkeleyer will be you if it isnt already.
Nugi said:Gonna go ahead and say it. I can tell you the bitrate of an mp3, and i have certified hearing damage. While most people and equipment cnt tell a differince, I sure as hell can. Bluetooth streming sounds like white noise to me. Maybe some folks just hear differently, but its there.
P.s. talking about anyone like you are neil is bad juju. Be nice, that old cranky berkeleyer will be you if it isnt already.
I don’t think I’ll likely be a cranky old berkeleyer. All the elders of the family have embraced new tech, none of them complain about the new way of things. I don’t see where I’ll be different.
LOL. I was in the neighborhood, walking with my wife, and my dog. We met up with a neighbor and all walked together. She asked if we had an Alexa in the house, and I said "No! I suspect they will be used for evil."
Turned out she and her husband thought they were great and had FIVE of them in their house.
1988RedT2 said:Turned out she and her husband thought they were great and had FIVE of them in their house.
Wow.
I was listening to a tech podcast a few days ago, and one of the hosts talked about visiting some friends who upon welcoming them to the house then asked them "not to use the 'A' word" lest they wake it up. Why they still would have it is beyond me.
1988RedT2 said:LOL. I was in the neighborhood, walking with my wife, and my dog. We met up with a neighbor and all walked together. She asked if we had an Alexa in the house, and I said "No! I suspect they will be used for evil."
Turned out she and her husband thought they were great and had FIVE of them in their house.
Something I've noticed recently is every radio station that I listen to are pushing the Alexa. several times an hour the announcer says, "Tell your smart speaker to listen to XXXX radio." They must have a pretty big promotions budget.
stuart in mn said:1988RedT2 said:LOL. I was in the neighborhood, walking with my wife, and my dog. We met up with a neighbor and all walked together. She asked if we had an Alexa in the house, and I said "No! I suspect they will be used for evil."
Turned out she and her husband thought they were great and had FIVE of them in their house.
Something I've noticed recently is every radio station that I listen to are pushing the Alexa. several times an hour the announcer says, "Tell your smart speaker to listen to XXXX radio." They must have a pretty big promotions budget.
I've noticed that, too. berkeleying annoying. I was watching Jeopardy the other night and Alex Trebek said "Alexa, please dim the lights" for final Jeopardy. Corny. Bezos doesn't have eleventy bazillion of those damn things out there already?
I know a guy who has one in his bathroom. I asked him if he minded that Bezos could hear him taking a E36 M3.
Mrs. VCH hates 'em, and I sure as hell don't want one.
For the artists complaining about the streaming services, I'll state the same thing I do for the people who complain about selling on eBay.
Please, go find another service that provides access to that volume of customers at such a low cost.
I've found lots of great music thanks to the streaming service we have on at work. I'll usually go home and buy the music if I really like it. I'll even go to a concert if the ticket price is in any way reasonable.
Apparently the deeper had to be explained to the rubes meaning of A Man Needs A Maid was Youngs loneliness. Wimp.
Shoulda wrote a song about how a man needs a lathe. 
Ian F said:Change with the times or get left behind. Hell, even Metallica - once the stalwarts against digital music have more or less given in - they now have a popular YouTube channel and upload pro-shot videos from recent shows.
As far as complaining about ticket prices - get over it. As mentioned, artists don't make money selling music anymore, so they have to make money by touring. It used to be an artist toured to support and album. Now an artist releases and album as a reason to tour. Metallica have pretty much been on tour since Hardwired was released almost 3 years ago.
Most people are not listening to music through high quality speakers, so I'm not sure what difference the recording quality really makes. It's still better than old cassette tapes.
You're misconstruing the Metallica stuff. They were against people STEALING their music, not against digital services. That's what people were doing back then, myself included when I started college in 2000.
So let's not conflate "Being against theft" with "being against digital."
He is sore because of the beating he took from the recording companies.
Even with his money he still cant get a drivers license!
I'd be grumpy too....
Complaining about the current state of music distribution is quaint.
More small bands are getting listened to now because of the distribution model than ever before. The theory of the "Long Tail" was groundbreaking in the 90s, now it's just another Tuesday.
How is it worse from the days P&R men told artists what music to record and then the labels got all of the money?
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