I feel odd asking this, but what are grits? I'm guessing you eat them?
PS Actually serious.
I feel odd asking this, but what are grits? I'm guessing you eat them?
PS Actually serious.
Adrian_Thompson said:In reply to David S. Wallens :
Zero, it's something that shouldn't exist.
Hey look at that, Adrian and I completely agree on something 
Grits are fine ground corn(sometimes) with water. I've seen consistency range from oatmeal to drywall mud. Not quite as fine ground as mush, but more so than polenta.
More of a southern dish.
Being a northerner and an Italian, I prefer polenta because I can slice it and grill it. The texture of grits is just gross to me.
In reply to RevRico :
I'm from Georgia and sometimes people will find it funny when they hear I didn't really eat grits growing up. My father (from VA) didn't like them much and my mother is from CT, so not really something she grew up with either. I don't really mind them, but trey do seem to need something added to them for flavor. Oatmeal, on the other hand - I eat that for breakfast almost every day.
Adrian_Thompson said:In reply to David S. Wallens :
Zero, it's something that shouldn't exist.
Grits are just a delivery means for other flavors. Shrimp and grits are amazing. Grits by themselves pointless. Like porridge.
02Pilot said:In reply to Brett_Murphy :
I don't think the documentary evidence supports this. I read those US warplans when I was in grad school. While there was an atomic component, from 1945-50 they were for the most part focused on how to evacuate Western Europe without being completely overrun by the Soviet Red Army. The offensive side of planning didn't really heat up until the Eisenhower administration, and even then the focus was on deterrence rather than use. Precisely how much capability to deliver and willingness to utilize atomic and nuclear weapons had to be demonstrated to effectively deter was open for debate. From the time of SIOP-62, you're getting into the MAD era, where the calculus changes quite a lot.
The period 1950-1962 is really fascinating. You get into all sorts of interesting approaches, especially games theory, to figure out how to deal with the complexities of potential future war. There is quite a lot of material out there on this, including huge troves of documents from both sides. If you're interested, take a look at Zubok & Pleshakov's Inside the Kremlin's Cold War, Kaplan's To Kill Nations, and Schelling's Arms & Influence for starters. And here's a link to Wohlstetter's important 1958 article The Delicate Balance of Terror.
Even through the 80's it was expected that we (the west) would lose a large chunk of europe.
Starch Madness is up.
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DukeOfUndersteer said:I wish i had the explanation on why i have an attraction to the Pontiac Fiero Jalapeno kit car thingy
*that* is shockingly cool.
David S. Wallens said:Starch Madness is up.
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I've got mashed potatos going up against potato salad for the championship. It may be a tie.
logdog said:Woody said:I ordered a wheelbarrow off Amazon.
Item description says:
- Corrosion-proof poly tray
- Rugged steel undercarriage
- Strong, seal-coated hardwood handles
- Tubed 16" pneumatic tire
Here's what I got:
Missing:
- Rugged steel undercarriage
- Strong, seal-coated hardwood handles
- Tubed 16" pneumatic tire
Looks to me like you were upgraded to the wireless frame with bluetooth tire.
I'm a big fan of the 2-wheeled barrows, especially for mulch, etc. One big bump and you dump a chunk of your load with the front wheel only.
They sent you 1 of the 2 boxes.
I just ordered a full set of CVPI headlights & corner lights - all shipped separately, and so far, only 1 headlight has arrived (the one that's unbroken on the car). Argh!
bobzilla said:David S. Wallens said:Starch Madness is up.
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I've got mashed potatos going up against potato salad for the championship. It may be a tie.
I have the final 4 as French fries, Potato skins, Tater tots, Mashed potatos as my Final 4
In reply to Greg Smith :
potato salad, chips, mashed potatos and tator tots.
Sweet potato vs. poutine
Greg Smith said:bobzilla said:David S. Wallens said:Starch Madness is up.
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I've got mashed potatos going up against potato salad for the championship. It may be a tie.
I have the final 4 as French fries, Potato skins, Tater tots, Mashed potatos as my Final 4
As much as I hate the "everybody gets a trophy" society we live in. I cannot eliminate even one competitor from the competition.
Guys, let's get serious here. How did French fries get on the list but British style chips didn't. I want this:
not this crap
In reply to Adrian_Thompson :
What is it that makes British style chips what they are? Is it the cut, preparation method, or something else? Never having been to the UK to try them, I had just assumed it was a cultural term related to Britain's ummm unique history with France.
It was only in the last few years that I learned "bangers" were a specific type of sausage, but I see "kebab" used by the handful of Brits I follow on Twitter to describe any take out that isn't pizza, maccas, or curry. So I'm not sure where "chips" falls in regards to food speak.
In reply to RevRico :
Mainly being silly, but the traditional British 'fish and chips' style chip tends to be thicker than over hear and for want of a better word more 'soggy'. Sounds awful, tastes amazing with salt and lot's of malt vinegar.
Kebab tends to be short hand for 'donner kebab' which is closest to a Gyro over here except it has lettuce, mayo, hot peppers in addition to the onion, tomato and Tzatziki sauce. Both tend to be lamb mixed with spices cooked vertically.
I had a dream last night that my grandfather owned a junk yard. Some guy pulled in in a lowered truck (circa 1970-ish) and said he had a problem, my grandfather replied "yeah, you stuck a Ford grill on a damned Dodge!" (My grandpa is a Ford guy).
Anyhoo, I'm kicking around the yard and come across a Renault Alpine A110 that's just about rusted to nothing but it looks like someone stuffed a Jaguar 4.2 inline 6 from and XKE in it.
About this time Mezzanine and Burrito are there with me, and the three of us notice there's another Alpine just a row or two up that had a better body. We're taking a look at it and it's pretty damn complete. Someone installed two turbos almost RIGHT before the exhaust tips. The Turbos are leaking oil like crazy, but we pull apart the exhaust closer to the engine and there's no oil there so we decide the engine is probably in good nick but that doesnt matter because the three of us immediately start talking about how we're going to grab that inline-6 from the rusty Alpine, and stuff it in this Alpine with the twin turbos...
About this time my grandpa comes back, and we ask if we can buy it from him. Of course we can! Yard price for any car is $500.
And that's how Burrito, Mezzanine, and I bought our new dream challenge build. A Twin-turbo, inline-6, Renault Alpine!
Naturally, when I woke up I immediately got on Mobile.de and started pricing old Renaults. Unfortunately reality sucks.
Thanks for the gritty information. Sounds like an acquired taste like salt cod boiled in milk! 
RevRico said:Adrian_Thompson said:In reply to David S. Wallens :
Zero, it's something that shouldn't exist.
Hey look at that, Adrian and I completely agree on something
berkeley, it's the end of days!
bobzilla said:02Pilot said:In reply to Brett_Murphy :
I don't think the documentary evidence supports this. I read those US warplans when I was in grad school. While there was an atomic component, from 1945-50 they were for the most part focused on how to evacuate Western Europe without being completely overrun by the Soviet Red Army. The offensive side of planning didn't really heat up until the Eisenhower administration, and even then the focus was on deterrence rather than use. Precisely how much capability to deliver and willingness to utilize atomic and nuclear weapons had to be demonstrated to effectively deter was open for debate. From the time of SIOP-62, you're getting into the MAD era, where the calculus changes quite a lot.
The period 1950-1962 is really fascinating. You get into all sorts of interesting approaches, especially games theory, to figure out how to deal with the complexities of potential future war. There is quite a lot of material out there on this, including huge troves of documents from both sides. If you're interested, take a look at Zubok & Pleshakov's Inside the Kremlin's Cold War, Kaplan's To Kill Nations, and Schelling's Arms & Influence for starters. And here's a link to Wohlstetter's important 1958 article The Delicate Balance of Terror.
Even through the 80's it was expected that we (the west) would lose a large chunk of europe.
True, though that fear really peaked in the 1970s. The equation changed with the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons. The fear was that, as the West's conventional forces failed to hold the line, they would be forced to concede Western Europe to the Soviets or start lobbing nukes. The 1980s build-up of conventional forces was intended to avoid the West having to go nuclear first, at least according to some analysts. Oddly enough, I just finished reading an article in the Journal of Military History on Sir John Hackett's influential novel The Third World War (1978), which deals with these very questions, and its influence on Western attitudes toward the conventional defense of Europe in the 1980s.
In reply to KyAllroad (Jeremy) :
I pretty much had this, except I don't have any shrimp...so it was chicken. It was good though!
Greg Smith said:DukeOfUndersteer said:I wish i had the explanation on why i have an attraction to the Pontiac Fiero Jalapeno kit car thingy
*that* is shockingly cool.
crossing these 2 things never once crossed my mind. Im dissapointed I couldnt come with something as cool and odd.
In reply to Hungary Bill :
Now tell them about the other dreams you have been having involving Mezz and myself. 
re. Starch Madness: I'm all in for tots. That will be the hill I die upon.
David S. Wallens said:re. Starch Madness: I'm all in for tots. That will be the hill I die upon.
I can't disagree, but don't sleep on croquettes. They could pull the upset.
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