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John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/3/19 12:03 p.m.
tjbell said:

$3139.83

 

Pull 1/4 panel, empire new light is probably 175, blend tailgate, bumper, 1/4 panel done

In the zone!

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
5/3/19 12:46 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

I'll expect to receive my No Prize in the mail any day now. wink

In reply to ddavidv :

Now I'm curious how close we were to David's computer estimate. 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/3/19 12:50 p.m.

In reply to Ian F :

"Oh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness."

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
5/3/19 1:51 p.m.

That's much more reasonable than I imagined. I was looking at the corner, and what appeared to be the door track and thinking that would be a big issue.

 

I need to see if I have any pictures from when I accidentally slid my BRZ into a ditch back in Jan 2017. Essentially the rocker under the driver door had a dent (so it had to be pulled and the entire huge panel repainted), the driver door, tail light, trunk, spoiler, and fancy exhaust.........................................I think it was something like $8500.

 

However, I used one of the best body shops in Tulsa. When it was done, I don't think anyone outside of the factory would have known. Also used one of State Farms preferred shops, which meant it came with a lifetime warranty on repairs. 

kazoospec
kazoospec UltraDork
5/3/19 1:57 p.m.
John Welsh said:
Datsun310Guy said:

I miss the old days - my sister mashed up every fender on her ‘74 Beetle.   Hammer it out from the back side, bondo, sand, and spray paint.  Good enough.  

$2750.00

Also spot on!

Hey, I got robbed.  I pulled a total "Price is right" on Datsun310Guy with a bid of $2,751.00.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/3/19 2:05 p.m.

In reply to kazoospec :

Okay, one more dose of Total Consciousness coming your way too.   Or, make that Total Consciousness +1

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera HalfDork
5/3/19 2:43 p.m.

Having only looked at the pictures, that's got to be about $2928.35 worth of damage.  I'll go read the rest of the thread now to see what the other guesses are.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/3/19 2:55 p.m.
Apis Mellifera said:

Having only looked at the pictures, that's got to be about $2928.35 worth of damage.  I'll go read the rest of the thread now to see what the other guesses are.

If your approach is honest, that's some damn good guessing!  

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera HalfDork
5/3/19 3:09 p.m.

I definitely didn't average the two totals provided that's for sure.

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
5/3/19 6:34 p.m.
John Welsh said:
Ian F said:

In reply to John Welsh :

OK.  Some school districts still operate their own buses and may be self-insured, which is why I asked. 

I'd go with around 24 hrs of labor (spread out over a week or so) and maybe $500 for materials.  Using a WAG of $100/hr for the labor in your area, My money guess will be $2900.

Your right there.

#1: $3,056.97

  • $941.52 Part
  • $1,027.20 Body Labor 21 hrs @ $48
  • $456.00 Paint Labor 9.5 hrs @ $48
  • $96.00 Glass labor 2.0 hrs @ $48
  • $285.00 Paint supplies 9.5 hrs @ $30
  • $54.95 Misc
  • $193.30 sales tax 

 

#2: $2,799.73

  • $1,119.20 parts
  • $2.50 other parts
  • $249.60 Paint and Materials 7.8 hrs @ $32
  • $92.56 sales tax
  • $864.00 Sheet metal labor 18 hrs @ $48
  • $13.00 Mech/Elec .2 hrs @ $65
  • $374.40 Refinish 7.8 hrs @ $48
  • $84.47 tax on labor

 

There is so much “fuzzy math” here, my head just ass-ploded.

Also: A PLUMBER here in the sticks charges $75/hr.

Also also: “Tax on labor!?”

I’m so confused.

ddavidv
ddavidv PowerDork
5/6/19 6:33 a.m.

Rates and taxes vary wildly by state. $48 is a bit low; we are at $52 here.

Insurance companies have the rates suppressed so shops make up for it by using 'funny time' for estimating labor. So we write 2 hrs to repair a dent that will take a guy maybe 45 minutes. It's a silly system but has been in use since the 1970s except on the west coast where I'm told they write actual time but at labor rates closer to $100.

I'm sure any estimate I write on my whizz-bang computer would be right there with the two he got. Writing a vehicle without a VIN is kind of a PITA which is why I can't be bothered to play/cheat.

The guy who said you should "ask to have it totaled" was a facepalm moment.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
6/27/19 3:21 p.m.

I picked up the wife's Mazda5 today.  After all the price wrangling of the insurance company (American Family) taking away some dollars and of body shop getting some dollars added back in, the final was $2,264.79

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