Making a Murderer

I have not seen it but I am generally aware of it.

What I heard someone else say, might be applicable: "just because he is innocent (assuming the police set him up) doesn't mean he didn't do it"

It also makes me think a bit about the murder of Robert Blakes wife and my observation: "I don't know if he killed her, but someone needed to". (Not in reference to killing of this girl, but to the conviction)

I am also not a fan of people who torture animals and their future potential (psychological profilers tend to agree).

I link Avery is a low life piece of E36 M3.

And I think the Sherriff's department frame him for that girls murder like they did for that woman's rape.

Honestly, It sounds like the entire states law enforcement and prosecutors need to be either fired for incompetence or jailed for purjury, obstruction of justice, tampering with a crime scene.

Never seen the show, just wanted to add I thought the title said making a marauder and that this thread was going to be about full size mercurys. Now I know

nepa03focus wrote: Never seen the show, just wanted to add I thought the title said making a marauder and that this thread was going to be about full size mercurys. Now I know

That would have cool, a B-26 Marauder would have been the bomb!

A few years back, the NC crime lab was found to be faking stuff. This E36 M3 happens. You better hope it isn't you.

The true test of a legal system:

• Find an innocent scumbag innocent.

• Find a guilty rich many guilty.

How we doin'?

oh, there were plenty of "labs" (2, I think, at least) that were shown in the documentary to be "faking" results.

aircooled wrote: The true test of a legal system: - Find an innocent scumbag innocent. - Find a guilty rich many guilty. How we doin'?

Between "Making a Murderer" and "The Jinx" (Link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jinx_(miniseries))

it looks like we are 0 for 2.

In reply to Robbie:

I found the lack of ballistics evidence from the 22 recovered from his property regarding a match to the bullet recovered damning as well. There's no reason not to test fire his gun with a bullet from the same ammo provider, and of that of any ammo found in his home or garage. If you have the murder weapon you ALWAYS provide ballistic testing results.

I haven't watched yet, some friends are and have talked about it on Facebook. I was going to watch over the weekend, until I saw season 2 of Z Nation was out...

Who I feel worse about is the nephew, Brendan...basically railroaded, and 5his only crime is having a very low IQ, believing dirty cops, and slipping thru the cracks. His whole life is ruined, and there's not a shred of physical evidence that links the poor kid...only a coerced "confession" that was shockingly and obviously fabricated by 2 of the scummiest examples of LEO's that I've ever seen...

When cases are tried in the media long before they ever make it to court, the actual judicial system doesn't have a chance.

When the prosecutor is told by the general public that someone is guilty, what do you expect him to do. He has no interest in keeping the innocent out of jail, his only interest is in keeping his job or getting elected to a higher office. He can't do that if the guy the media already tried and convicted gets off because of a little thing called innocence. Convictions keep his job, not justice.

It's not the system that's catastrophically broken, it's society, the media, and the stupid that can't see past a headline.

It's actually pretty disgusting. Have you checked your facebook feed lately. I see people sentenced to death all the time because of a picture.

Prompted me to talk with my teenage son, that's for sure.

(about speaking to cops)

Toyman01 wrote: Have you checked your facebook feed lately. I see people sentenced to death all the time because of a picture.

?????

gearheadmb wrote:

Toyman01 wrote: Have you checked your facebook feed lately. I see people sentenced to death all the time because of a picture.

?????

Person shares picture with a caption. "THIS PERSON DID THIS." Then there are 100 comments about how they should die or be sentenced to life. They have no information other than a blurb, and a snap shot but they will be judge, jury and executioner anyway.

Toyman01 wrote: When cases are tried in the media long before they ever make it to court, the actual judicial system doesn't have a chance. When the prosecutor is told by the general public that someone is guilty, what do you expect him to do. He has no interest in keeping the innocent out of jail, his only interest is in keeping his job or getting elected to a higher office. He can't do that if the guy the media already tried and convicted gets off because of a little thing called innocence. Convictions keep his job, not justice. It's not the system that's catastrophically broken, it's society, the media, and the stupid that can't see past a headline. It's actually pretty disgusting. Have you checked your facebook feed lately. I see people sentenced to death all the time because of a picture.

I fully agree with you. Added to the crap though is that in this case, the prosecutor TOLD the media who was guilty and started the ball rolling.

Seems neither of these guys had a Johnny Cochran.

I don't know if he did it. I just know that this case is soo screwed up that the case should have been re-tried somewhere else.

spitfirebill wrote: Seems neither of these guys had a Johnny Cochran.

Avery had pretty good counsel, I thought. Dassey was sold down the river BY his counsel but the courts didn't seem to give a E36 M3. Episode 10 was pretty disturbing.

It's a shame you can't cut off a limb and count the rings or something to discover the truth.

All this discussion about the docuseries, and no mention of Angenette Levy, the GGA-worthy reporter from Green Bay, that was seen in several shots?

OHSCrifle wrote:

spitfirebill wrote: Seems neither of these guys had a Johnny Cochran.

Avery had pretty good counsel, I thought. Dassey was sold down the river BY his counsel but the courts didn't seem to give a E36 M3. Episode 10 was pretty disturbing. It's a shame you can't cut off a limb and count the rings or something to discover the truth.

I have read exactly what you say, but you have to believe Avery's lawyers could have sowed SOME doubt in the jurors minds.

RealMiniParker wrote: All this discussion about the docuseries, and no mention of Angenette Levy, the GGA-worthy reporter from Green Bay, that was seen in several shots?

Shes been in Cincinnati since 2010 - Local 12 news

Flight Service wrote: I link Avery is a low life piece of E36 M3. And I think the Sherriff's department frame him for that girls murder like they did for that woman's rape. Honestly, It sounds like the entire states law enforcement and prosecutors need to be either fired for incompetence or jailed for purjury, obstruction of justice, tampering with a crime scene.

I'm only about 20 minutes into it but, this seems to sum it up. Just heard them say his I.Q. is 70. Not sure how they tested it but damn. Just...damn.

I lift in a grungy, 24 hour powerlifting gym and with my schedule I lift at all hours of the day and night. In the past month I've run into 4 young guys who have recently gotten out of prison. All of them were in their mid 20's.

Two of the guys were tragically intelligent but made a series of idiotic decisions (one breaking and entering/retail theft, one DUI and possession of weed) and now they're hosed for life. One of those two was just over halfway through a Mechanical Engineering Technology degree. As far as I could tell they were telling the truth. (I found out because I asked them if they were looking for jobs and told them about the company I work for and the guys asked if they would hire felons.)

It makes a fella think. I've been fortunate in that I haven't been caught doing some of the stupid stuff I've done in the past.

There are good guys and pieces of E36 M3 on both sides of the law. I think the pieces of E36 M3 who make a living coming up with laws or using the laws to do whatever the berkeley they want are the most dangerous.

Just started episode 2 and noticed the theme from the opening is quite similar to Game of Thrones...