Meanwhile, at the Capital...

4cylndrfury wrote: Term Limits and a Balanced Budget Amendment. Do this now. /thread

Never happen

wrote:

COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY and total flounder

Also COMPLETELY deceptive.

Historic Gas Price Chart: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx

Obama took office in Jan 2009. Take a look at the gas prices before he took office, notice anything. Yes, they were WAY higher.

Please take you deceptive partisan BS talking points somewhere else.

(sorry - needless to say, this sort of miss-education upsets me)

In reply to Billy_Bottle_Caps:

Oh, I agree completely, it never will, but this is the 8/20 principle in action...80% of our problems will be solved by correcting 20% of the actual issues...or in this case, its the 97/2 principle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

in a non related note...what happened to this guy:

no username?

I dont see the absolute necessity in a balanced budget, if the GDP increases faster than the debt, it becomes less and less of a percentage. Countries can be perfectly stable and healthy and thrive even with high debt to GDP ratios. And a low requiring a balanced budget would be extremely bad in times of crisis, when it is a very good idea to offset a drop in consumer demand.

4cylndrfury wrote: in a non related note...what happened to this guy: no username?

I noticed that, he must bea ghost. I am super jealous of his username

Xceler8x wrote: Please don't flounder up the thread by trying to blame one side. IMO both sides are equally as to blame here for various reasons.

In my opinion, I think the attitude that both sides must be to blame is part of the problem. They both share blame in the dsyfunction, but not equally.

aircooled wrote:

wrote:

COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY and total flounder Also COMPLETELY deceptive. Historic Gas Price Chart: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx Obama took office in Jan 2009. Take a look at the gas prices before he took office, notice anything. Yes, they were WAY higher. Please take you deceptive partisan BS talking points somewhere else.

Bur my "I hate whatever Obama Does" Facebook page posted this funny meme and I had to share it. Get your relevant facts out of here...

CJ, if you thought the gas price sign was funny, this one will really have you rolling on the floor:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion. Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America. And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities.

Who said that? Who? Some Tea Party radical trying to starve babies or old people or something? Who?

what's that i smell? chocolate pudding banana cream pie, motherberkeleyer! do you speak it?

I like cake

Dr. Hess wrote: CJ, if you thought the gas price sign was funny, this one will really have you rolling on the floor:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion. Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America. And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities.

Who said that? Who? Some Tea Party radical trying to starve babies or old people or something? Who?

Why good Doctor, that would be one Barry Obama.

Dr. Hess wrote: CJ, if you thought the gas price sign was funny, this one will really have you rolling on the floor:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion. Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America. And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities.

Who said that? Who? Some Tea Party radical trying to starve babies or old people or something? Who?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/debtlimit.asp

In reply to Dr. Hess:

That was your favorite Irishman Barry O'Bama, in 2006, when he was in his first (only) term as a US senator.

Unrelated...

Everything was going just fine in this thread until i dropped my crack pipe, bent over to pick it up, and...

bravenrace wrote:

Sine_Qua_Non wrote: Time to fire ALL politicians from Congress and start over.

Unfortunately that is the only way anything will change, and it's pretty near impossible to do.

It happens when enough members of the population is willing to die in order to affect change. Even then, nothing is guaranteed.

In reply to N Sperlo:

Why in the hell did you drop your pipe in the first place.....

In reply to yamaha:

Forgot to put down the lighter when I reached for my gun.

aircooled wrote:

wrote:

COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY and total flounder Also COMPLETELY deceptive. Historic Gas Price Chart: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx Obama took office in Jan 2009. Take a look at the gas prices before he took office, notice anything. Yes, they were WAY higher. Please take you deceptive partisan BS talking points somewhere else. (sorry - needless to say, this sort of miss-education upsets me)

sORRY. You're wrong. I understand you want to love the man and all that, but here's the truth: http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/19/news/economy/gas_prices/

Look at the date it was written.

There are 100 senators, 435 congressmen, 8 or 9 current supreme court justices, the president, vice-president, and secretary of state.

There are 316,763,000 people living in the United States according to the latest census.Roughly 450 of them are responsible for this mess.

Seems like the pool is deep enough that you can throw them all away a couple times until you get a group who understand who they are supposed to work for.

Smiley face to allow defense team to prove I said it in jest:

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

I second the motion. Fire them ALL and start over.