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Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
12/1/16 11:26 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: Jesus, my right titty hurts.

Punch the left one, you won't feel the right one anymore.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
12/1/16 11:27 a.m.
bastomatic wrote: In reply to chandlerGTi: My understanding is there is federal stay on that order. I know my workplace decided not to follow it.

If your lucky you won't ever have to calculate overtime again...

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/1/16 3:48 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: Jesus, my right titty hurts.

Play with the left one next time

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 SuperDork
12/1/16 3:54 p.m.

PCs not coming with a physical copy of the OS, I know it's not a new thing, but it's really burning me up right now.

I can't get a Win 7 image from M$ because when I type in my product key I get told my OS was "pre-installed by the device manufacturer," and Dell won't give me one because I, "purchased the license of the software which entitles you to use the software however this doesn't include the media."

I don't recall having the option. I'm sure it was some small box you had to check that I over looked. Apparently I just paid for the gift of using the OS, not actually having the ability to ever install it again.

EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
12/1/16 4:21 p.m.

Salt.

It's a rock. It was a rock a million years ago, and it will be a rock a million years from now.

My rant is that stupid consumer protection laws force the folks who package salt to put a "best by" date on SALT.

It's SALT, fer chrissakes! It will never be any better or worse than it is right at this very moment.

Stupid law.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
12/1/16 5:29 p.m.

berkeley. New washer and dryer setup is 1 inch taller, and 1/2 inch wider than the old. Guess what doesn't work with the custom built in cabinets i put in the laundry room?

Now i get to berkeleying gut it. Yay.

Nick (Bo) Comstock
Nick (Bo) Comstock UltimaDork
12/1/16 6:00 p.m.
EvanR wrote: Salt. It's a rock. It was a rock a million years ago, and it will be a rock a million years from now. My rant is that stupid consumer protection laws force the folks who package salt to put a "best by" date on SALT. It's SALT, fer chrissakes! It will never be any better or worse than it is right at this very moment. Stupid law.

And yet my wife will throw it away at least a week prior to that date, you know "just to be safe".

fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
12/1/16 6:31 p.m.

And there's an MSDS for water. Standard procedures. Yea, know how that works.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/1/16 6:51 p.m.
EvanR wrote: Salt. It's a rock. It was a rock a million years ago, and it will be a rock a million years from now. My rant is that stupid consumer protection laws force the folks who package salt to put a "best by" date on SALT. It's SALT, fer chrissakes! It will never be any better or worse than it is right at this very moment. Stupid law.

Except salt isn't salt, at least table salt isn't. It's almost always iodized, and there's usually a small amount of an anti clumping chemical whose name I forget. "When it rains, it pours" means "when it is so humid that the sky is leaking, this salt won't turn into a recalcitrant cake in the bottom of the shaker".

I'd love (or hate) to see the microorganism that could survive living in a salt environment without being dessicated in minutes, but it's possible that the "best by" just means BEST by for other reasons like pourability or odor control.

Or maybe it's subtle marketing, make you subconsciously think twice about using old salt. Alka-Seltzer is perfectly fine when used singly, but then the marketing department realized they could almost practically double their sales by writing their catchy little radio jingle to imply you take two at a time.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/1/16 6:53 p.m.
fasted58 wrote: And there's an MSDS for water. Standard procedures. Yea, know how that works.

Everything HAS to have an MSDS.

Water has an LD50, too!

fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
12/1/16 7:03 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
fasted58 wrote: And there's an MSDS for water. Standard procedures. Yea, know how that works.
Everything HAS to have an MSDS. Water has an LD50, too!

Yes, we know this... by the berkeleying book. What would flatulence be? H2S, my guess.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/1/16 7:04 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
fasted58 wrote: And there's an MSDS for water. Standard procedures. Yea, know how that works.
Everything HAS to have an MSDS. Water has an LD50, too!

It's just SDS now. And 15 pages instead of one.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UberDork
12/1/16 7:49 p.m.

We switched from AT&T to Cricket (owned by AT&T ?) and after all the shenanigans AT&T sends us a bill to finish things up. The bill was for $0.01 ! So, we felt we should pay up , rather than have a credit rating hit for non-payment. Drove to the local AT&T store, rather than spend $0.47 to mail it in and paid the bill in cash. My wife did keep a straight face while she suggested that she wanted to pay by VISA. The store manager didn't want to do that. All that nonsense for a penny.

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 UltraDork
12/1/16 10:02 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: We switched from AT&T to Cricket (owned by AT&T ?) and after all the shenanigans AT&T sends us a bill to finish things up. The bill was for $0.01 ! So, we felt we should pay up , rather than have a credit rating hit for non-payment. Drove to the local AT&T store, rather than spend $0.47 to mail it in and paid the bill in cash. My wife did keep a straight face while she suggested that she wanted to pay by VISA. The store manager didn't want to do that. All that nonsense for a penny.

Can see your reasoning. Once had a bill for zero dollars and zero cents. Didn't pay it. Showed up on my credit report a couple months later as a late payment. Was in the process of buying guarantee a house and had to explain why I was late paying a bill for zero dollars. Paid off something early and it took the computer a month to realize balance was paid, just sent off the bill like it was used to doing every month.

AWSX1686
AWSX1686 GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/2/16 6:58 a.m.
Knurled wrote:
EvanR wrote: Salt. It's a rock. It was a rock a million years ago, and it will be a rock a million years from now. My rant is that stupid consumer protection laws force the folks who package salt to put a "best by" date on SALT. It's SALT, fer chrissakes! It will never be any better or worse than it is right at this very moment. Stupid law.
Except salt isn't salt, at least table salt isn't. It's almost always iodized, and there's usually a small amount of an anti clumping chemical whose name I forget. "When it rains, it pours" means "when it is so humid that the sky is leaking, this salt won't turn into a recalcitrant cake in the bottom of the shaker". I'd love (or hate) to see the microorganism that could survive living in a salt environment without being dessicated in minutes, but it's possible that the "best by" just means BEST by for other reasons like pourability or odor control. Or maybe it's subtle marketing, make you subconsciously think twice about using old salt. Alka-Seltzer is perfectly fine when used singly, but then the marketing department realized they could almost practically double their sales by writing their catchy little radio jingle to imply you take two at a time.

Rock salt or "real salt" is what we have been using. It tastes saltier and doesn't have the chemicals. There's not enough Iodine in table salt to be helpful anyway. We put a little bit of rice in the shaker to keep it from clumping.

AWSX1686
AWSX1686 GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/2/16 7:06 a.m.

My minor rant from the last 3 days. A Facebook friend of mine keeps posting things about how minimum wage need to be raised, anyone working 40 hours a week should be making enough to live comfortably, the people who benefit most from minimum wage are not teenagers but people in their 30s, etc, etc, etc. Garbage. I keep saying that if you do well at your job, you won't be at minimum wage for long, and if there is no growth potential you should find a different job, and that if you're in your 30s you have been working age for over 10 years and should have enough experience not to be at minimum wage. Don't rely on the government to force employers into paying you better, make yourself worth it to the employer!

The really sad part is his mom even chimed in agreeing with me...

P.S.

Not trying to start another debate here, if necessary we can have another thread for that. I'm just ranting about how much people whine and think they deserve so much these days, and this is the thread to rant on right?

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
12/2/16 7:41 a.m.
AWSX1686 wrote: I keep saying that if you do well at your job, you won't be at minimum wage for long, and if there is no growth potential you should find a different job

That's quite the assumption.

My reply rant is that people ASS-U-ME that there are opportunities out there for the non-skilled.

I've ranted many times that Americans are not getting the skills needed to fill all of the high skill jobs, and that we have to fill them with imports.

But that does not mean that there are places to go, or jobs to step up to for the non-skilled. There are limited "manager" positions at every service place (food or stores). That is a real problem. Partially why Trump got so much support (not that I expect him to fix it).

Kind of like the people who say that you should move if you can't handle living where you are.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
12/2/16 7:54 a.m.

Did it ever occur that the cost difference in raising the minimum wage will eventually be paid for by the consumer? $15/hr won't mean E36 M3 when milk costs $5/gal.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
12/2/16 8:07 a.m.

It's beyond me how you can do any job, no matter how menial, for 10 years and NOT incidentally learn some marketable skills that can be used to better your position above minimum wage.

Except for people with an actual disability, of course.

trigun7469
trigun7469 Dork
12/2/16 8:11 a.m.

I try and do a nice thing for my family and rent a cabin in NC, during the holidays. My wife receives a letter in the mail today and it is a invitation to a bridal shower for her cousin (receiving the month of is fairly late invitation). It's one of the days that we will be out of town. It's been non-stop whining a moaning from her, some people truly deserve a lump of coal for xmas.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/2/16 8:37 a.m.
Duke wrote: It's beyond me how you can do any job, no matter how menial, for 10 years and NOT incidentally learn some marketable skills that can be used to better your position. Except for people with an actual disability, of course.

I know people who have worked in the same business for their entire working career and are getting ready to retire who still have learned no marketable skills.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
12/2/16 8:40 a.m.

Still a pointless argument when we can pay someone in China $10 a day to do what we have to pay someone $10 an hour here.

Raise the minimum wage. Or don't. I really don't care and it won't make too much of a difference to me, and long term, to anyone else.

You really want to make a difference? Talk with your wallet. Buy things from companies/countries that pay a living wage.

And FWIW, I'm not much if any better. I'm probably worse. I buy my stuff at estate sales.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/2/16 8:44 a.m.
AWSX1686 wrote: I keep saying that if you do well at your job, you won't be at minimum wage for long, and if there is no growth potential you should find a different job, and that if you're in your 30s you have been working age for over 10 years and should have enough experience not to be at minimum wage.

I'm sure all the people with college degrees who can't find any work in their field due to lack of demand and are working as baristas etc. agree with you. And yet raises, promotions, and job opportunities do not rain down like manna from heaven, no matter how much experience they acquire.

You're one of the lucky ones, don't get wrapped up in survivorship bias.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
12/2/16 8:51 a.m.
Duke wrote: It's beyond me how you can do any job, no matter how menial, for 10 years and NOT incidentally learn some marketable skills that can be used to better your position. Except for people with an actual disability, of course.

Even IF you do, that does not mean there is opportunity.

The minimum wage thing isn't about people who make stuff, for the most part. Sure, some of them don't do well. It's about people who do stuff- fast food, department stores, etc. Stuff that we think is so very easy to do that they should not be paid much.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad UberDork
12/2/16 9:34 a.m.

In an age of digital photography can't we have a press conference in which the person speaking can actually be berkeleying HEARD? Ever single white house press conference is the same thing "The issue at hand....CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK...means for everyone." Seriously guys, put silencers on your damn cameras!

Or even better, just take a video then cherry pic the one image you like. Or take just one picture and live with that. Just stop the machine gun barrage of shutter clacks.

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