JG, If you're referring to the school I'm thinking of, I'm not surprised. What was surprising was while I was a substitute, the archery team could carry everything with them, including arrows. In the middle schools, not even the high school.
Oddly enough, it was the most well rounded, intelligent students that were in the archery clubs. A few brought "non-competition" arrows, but they were also the ones with pictures of the last animal they killed as the background on their iPhone.
My senior year of high school, the marching band played 'The Theme to Peter Gunn' at halftime, and we formed the shape of a pistol. At the end of the song, we all took cap guns out of our pockets and fired them into the air. I kept my cap gun, which looked a lot like a .38 revolver, in my locker at school for the four weeks we did that particular routine.
A girl of 8, brought a toy gun to school and there is great discomfort because she was not punished harshly for bringing something she plays with at home to her school. Her class mates need counselors to talk to them about this transgression of protocol .. in the Twilight Zone...
Read in Rod Serling's voice
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
Imagine, if you will, that I read all of your posts in Rod Serling's voice. 
One of my coworkers complained about a different coworker having a scary pocket knife. She did it in the kitchen. I reached past her and pulled a random knife out of the block, held it in front of her, looked at it, then put it back in the block. Haven't heard a peep out of her since.
I brought a training (inert) grenade and a live .50 caliber round to school in the 90s. How am I not in jail?
The school has no policy for the young'en bringing the toy gun. What is school policy for bringing the Fleshlight?
Scorpions in a Fleshlight sounds like a great idea for a cheesy horror movie.
yamaha wrote: What happened to this countryI'm a decade out of high school and even then it was still normal to see pickups in the parking lot with firearms in full display......I blame the fear based society we've become and toys being made to look like the real thing. Seriously, this bullE36 M3 needs to change. A third grader(whom is obviously just seeking attention) and doesn't understand what is even going on is certainly not going to be a threat. A child that age will seek out attention any way they can. I'll bet she doesn't understand what has been seen 24/7 on the news but sees the "excess of attention" displayed. Cliff notes for the rant: Tell your wife to just sit down and talk with her student after class. Chances are all they want is someone to talk to.
That's funny because I went to high school almost 15 years ago in Mississippi and we would get suspended for having weapons in our cars as it had been common for guys to have their rifles/shotguns because they went hunting before/after school. Then again this was 1-2 years removed from one of the first modern school shootings in Pearl, MS. Our school also got in trouble for chaining shut every door other than the main entrance during classes, blocking all the fire exits.
Those kids also saw guns as tools and treated them with respect. Now I think most kids see guns as playthings since they have toy guns and they don't have the respect for the real thing that we did/do.
moparman76_69 wrote: Those kids also saw guns as tools and treated them with respect. Now I think most kids see guns as playthings since they have toy guns and they don't have the respect for the real thing that we did/do.
No, I think that most kids don't have access to guns, so don't see them as tools. Most of those that do have access to guns do see them as tools. But it only takes one who doesn't see it as a tool to mess everything up.
Wally wrote: Scorpions in a Fleshlight sounds like a great idea for a cheesy horror movie.
I would think Scorpions in a fleshlight would hurt a lot.
When I was in elementary schools I took two shotguns to school fro show and tell. One was a war prize my dad brought back from WWII and the other was a family heirloom that was suppposedly on the battlefield at Gettysburg.
Maroon92 wrote:1988RedT2 wrote: Wow. In this county, a kid was suspended for having a butterknife in her lunchbox, allegedly planted there by her big brother. I think she was in second grade. Zero tolerance here for knives, and that includes elementary school. Pretty sure the incident you described would have resulted in expulsion here.A berkeleying butter knife? Isn't that a bit over the top? Zero tolerance is just a fancy way of saying "I don't want the burden of having to apply logic, so let's just let the "rules" decide..."
I couldn't agree more. I think it's positively asinine to serve say, a Salisbury steak in the school cafeteria and expect the kids to cut it up with a plastic fork. Actually the plastic spoons work better. Zero tolerance includes plastic knives.
I agree. Had the student brought Scorpions to school they would deserve to be suspended.
Total crap.
Speaking as a former teacher... sounds like this kid wants/needs some attention. People can say what they want about it being a toy gun... but that's not what this situation is really about. I fully empathize with your wife's position of having to balance that against the need to instruct the rest of the class.
The anonymous tip to the local media is definitely the wrong path. You'd win the fight against the administration, but the kid would be collateral damage. It would not help the situation causing the behavior. Need to find a way for someone to have a good talk with the kid.
I'd go with it being near the end of the school year and most of the class being checked out already anyway. This kid would be a distraction until the end of the week she returns, then kids would forget about it by Monday and go back to being no more distracted than before.
I don't think you're going to get her moved out of general ed by the end of the school year, but you might be able to be a squeeky enough wheel to get her shifted to the correct classroom environment where she can get the sort of attention she needs for next year.
so another kid brings a toy to school and we're in an uproar over it? Is that what I'm hearing? Got it.Nothing new to see here, just more pussification of our society.
I hafta wonder what possessed somebody to develop the Fleshlight.
I has this here old flashlight body, think I'll pour some (whatever it is) in it and make it look like Bob Costas.
Sounds kinda GRM-ish to an extent, but... no wait, nevermind. 
Bobzilla wrote: so another kid brings a toy to school and we're in an uproar over it? Is that what I'm hearing? Got it.Nothing new to see here, just more pussification of our society.
That's what people are latching onto, but that isn't what this is really about. A kid with social-behavioral issues (probably coming from a rough situation at home) brings something to school that they know is against school policy and will be inflamatory, and flashes it around to get attention. Teacher does not have the training or resources to effectively handle the root issues, wants the kid moved to a classroom where the teachers are trained to deal with kids like this, administration is unable or unwilling to do that.
Administration can't change a child's status willy nilly without parental involvement. Just because a child SHOULD be in "X" program doesn't mean E36 M3 if the parents don't agree. I'm married to a special ed teacher who deals with this 20 times a year. She had 3 conferences this past week that 2 of them SHOULD have come to her class, but the parents are not facing reality.
Bobzilla wrote: so another kid brings a toy to school and we're in an uproar over it? Is that what I'm hearing? Got it.Nothing new to see here, just more pussification of our society.
Issue isn't the kid bringing the gun to school. The issue is the kid waving the gun around.
Bobzilla wrote: so another kid brings a toy to school and we're in an uproar over it? Is that what I'm hearing? Got it.Nothing new to see here, just more pussification of our society.
Yeah, this was absolutely not a kid bringing a toy to school. It was very much a troubled kid with a score to settle thinking this might be a good way to do it. The gun was a highly realistic airsoft version of an HK M&P. She may not have even known it wasn't a real gun. 't she waved it at a cop, she'd have likely been shot. If she were 18 and did this she'd most certainly be in jail.
If the county makes good decisions, I'm completely on board with their decision to keep things quiet initially. Becoming the center of a reactionary poo-storm will not help this kid one bit. What she needs is some real counseling.
My big fear with putting her back in the class is that as far as the other kids are concerned, they're sticking a loose cannon who tried to murder them a few days ago back in their environment. I can only see that making things worse.
And, yes, the parents are most definitely the root of the problem here. I've been hearing about these folks all year. Trouble was coming, this is just how it manifested itself.
There are lots of more messed up situations than this, for what it's worth.
My sisters school caught one girl masturbating while the class was watching a documentary about the Holocaust. They didn't even send her home for that day.
In reply to tuna55:
That is messed up.
Come on people. Kids have been kicked out of school for DRAWING PICTURES of guns. The great pussification of america.
tuna55 wrote: My sisters school caught one girl masturbating while the class was watching a documentary about the Holocaust.
I'm sure the two events weren't exactly related in her mind but holy berkeley did that make me laugh out loud.
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