Okay, someone's gotta say it..

Earlier in the race Danica was doing quite well. Her problem is she is not consistent enough. Run good in the race and then spin on a restart. Maybe she will do a little better in NASCAR.

alfadriver wrote: She's sitting 11th right now, ahead of most of the drivers.

That's kinda what I was thinking. Must not suck too bad.

Throwing the green in those conditions looked like a mistake to me. I'm no expert, but it seemed like a bad call and a lot of the drivers and teams were saying there was no way they could race.

OMG!!!!!

She is 12th in points

Out of 24 drivers that have competed in 10 or more races! Cool you are in the 50% percentile.

You know what, I stand corrected. She is awesome, she is the greatest driver on the circuit. What was I thinking? Her record is so outstanding before she got there she deserved to get the championship before she even got in the car. Shaking her ass on the Go Daddy adds earns her the right to be declared the best driver ever! How dare her crew not give her the best equipment ever. You know that spin was the rain, or the tires, or the car, Danica can do no wrong! Who cares if she has won 1 race in her professional career? That is all it really takes right? I mean Mario Andretti, Emerson Fittipaldi, Bobby Rahal, Jackie Stewart, and Ayrton Senna, those guys only won one race right? They don't even compare to Patrick!

I have never seen such fan fare for such a, and I am being real generous, mediocre Indy driver.

Wonder how much this cost him?.

FlightService wrote: OMG!!!!! She is 12th in points Out of 24 drivers that have competed in 10 or more races! Cool you are in the 50% percentile. You know what, I stand corrected. She is awesome, she is the greatest driver on the circuit. What was I thinking? Her record is so outstanding before she got there she deserved to get the championship before she even got in the car. Shaking her ass on the Go Daddy adds earns her the right to be declared the best driver ever! How dare her crew not give her the best equipment ever. You know that spin was the rain, or the tires, or the car, Danica can do no wrong! Who cares if she has won 1 race in her professional career? That is all it really takes right? I mean Mario Andretti, Emerson Fittipaldi, Bobby Rahal, Jackie Stewart, and Ayrton Senna, those guys only won one race right? They don't even compare to Patrick! I have never seen such fan fare for such a, and I am being real generous, mediocre Indy driver.

Dude, what's with the obesssion?

She turn you down in a bar?

FlightService wrote: OMG!!!!! She is 12th in points Out of 24 drivers that have competed in 10 or more races! Cool you are in the 50% percentile. You know what, I stand corrected. She is awesome, she is the greatest driver on the circuit. What was I thinking?

Huh. You're really worked up about it. Nobody (that I can see, anyhow) said she was the greatest driver on the circut. But, you know, do you think all the drivers behind her should lose their ride too?

racerfink wrote: And yes, Barnhart has to go. I've been saying that since before the Helio incident at Cleveland.

i wish we still had the grand prix here, i spent many a fun weekend in the grandstands and pits there during my childhood. in no other race could they go 8 wide into the first turn, where they had to neck down to single file. made for some exciting starts. CART put on a good show. i remember the PPG pace cars cruising the streets of cleveland during race week too.

In Response to mad_machine:

An Indy Car: ~$2 Million

A TV EFP Camera with Zoom lens: ~$30K

The response from a mad driver: Priceless

There are somethings money can't buy, for everything else there's Brian Barnhard

Just sick of people saying she is a talent. When she has done nothing to prove it.

She is a polarizing figure. Like any other racer she has to fund the machine that keeps her on the track enjoying the addiction of racing. She is far better at marketing herself than the whole damn series. People that don't know racing know who she is.

It's the same sort of gripe people have with Ken Block's success. Is he the best US rally driver ever or even currently? Yet he's the one in the WRC, largely because he can market himself better than the next guy.

Yet you still have to be good enough to keep up, or your career is toast.

You have to pay to play, and Danica is smart enough to realize that. Racing doesn't always promote the most talented drivers sadly. It promotes the drivers that promote themselves. You might not care for her or the way she races, but I can guarantee that Go Daddy is getting their money's worth.

In reply to FlightService:

So?

There are drivers who have less talent driving IndyCars, and drivers who have more talent driving Indycars.

Most of what you post about is about one.

Nobody is asking to to watch.

3 other drivers started crashes before her's. All of them in the dry.

BFD.

In reply to alfadriver:

Actually they do, every commercial out there about the race asked me to watch it. They need me to watch it so they can sell their ad space.

Yes, I posted about Danica because name one other driver with her level of "talent" that anyone ever comments on. Name one.

sachilles hit the nail on the head. She is a marketing juggernaut, which is fine. Just don't defend it when she terminally screws the pooch. Don't jump my E36 M3 for it when I call her on it like racerfink did.

Motorsports isn't about driving anymore, it isn't about speed, or competition or innovation or sportsmanship. It is about who can whore themselves out the best to bring in the ad dollars.

I watch Grand-Am because it's not there yet. I stopped watching NASCAR, Indy Car, and F1 because that is where they are at.

Lulz, this is so LAME.

FlightService wrote: Just sick of people saying she is a talent. When she has done nothing to prove it.

No different than Michael Waltrip. Dude's face is on so much during a NASCAR race you'd think he was the best driver on the circut. Then his brother in the box talking about how great he is because he won at Daytona once.

It happens. Michael is a big personality so he commands attention. Danica is a pretty girl in a sport where that's uncommon so she commands attention. It's not like they hide the fact that racing is driven by marketing. There's a bunch of people who tune in every week to see what the Michael Waltrips and Danica Patricks of the world are up to. If it keeps the races on, who cares?

You need to rewatch that replay then.

FlightService wrote: Motorsports isn't about driving anymore, it isn't about speed, or competition or innovation or sportsmanship. It is about who can whore themselves out the best to bring in the ad dollars.

That's pretty much where ALL professional racing has been for ohh, say, 30 or 40 years. So? That's why I rarely watch pro racing and care more about club level stuff.

FlightService wrote: In reply to alfadriver: Actually they do, every commercial out there about the race asked me to watch it. They need me to watch it so they can sell their ad space. Yes, I posted about Danica because name one other driver with her level of "talent" that anyone ever comments on. Name one. sachilles hit the nail on the head. She is a marketing juggernaut, which is fine. Just don't defend it when she terminally screws the pooch. Don't jump my E36 M3 for it when I call her on it like racerfink did. Motorsports isn't about driving anymore, it isn't about speed, or competition or innovation or sportsmanship. It is about who can whore themselves out the best to bring in the ad dollars. I watch Grand-Am because it's not there yet. I stopped watching NASCAR, Indy Car, and F1 because that is where they are at.

So what you are saying is that you are complaining about a driver in a series that you don't watch.

Ok.

IMHO, if you are going to jump on her, then there's typically a whole host of drivers who need to be jumped on, too.

For example- Mike Conway- spun at the beginning of the race, in the dry. Crashing into Rahal.

And Schecter, who decided that 3 wide was the way to get around lapped traffic, and came down on Andretti, who then crashed into Kanaan.

And, on the top of my list, Dario- who decided that staying in the high line at the stripe was not good enough, so he drove down to Sato, thus crashing himself out of a race he was dominating. His whining was so strong that Sato apologized and said that he had a tear in his eye, and that it would never happen again. No, Takuma, Dario drove into you, being a lamo expecing the entire field to get out of his way. The same Dario that ran into Will Power in Toronto, blaming Power for not giving space. Dario may be fast, but his driving is very a-hole like.

Those accidents, in the dry, were substantially worse than Danica's- bonehead wise.

She has a money maker, she should shake it more. Slix in the rain are a slippery slope. A gentle touch with no adrenaline to cloud the thinking. Most women I know have aaaatitude that overcomes reason everytime, Logic be damned.

I will just leave this here.

Power's face and bird flipping, EPIC and awesome

ahhh......the lovely sounds of discussing on today's motorsport and how it always should go back to when it was good and not worthless...always makes me laugh hysterically

93EXCivic wrote: I will just leave this here.

Adding lightness imo.

93EXCivic wrote: I will just leave this here.

gif that and we have a winneR!

oldsaw wrote: Put me in the growing camp of Will Power fans; TGBB deserved that salute. If WP has to pay a fine, it should come out Barnhart's pocket, as should the costs to repair all the cars damaged on the front straight.

If Will's assessed a fine, I'll send him money out of my own pocket to help him pay it.

Maybe I'll stop talking about Indycar in public. I'm so tired of every Indycar discussion turning into a Danica discussion. I never see anyone slamming Jim Hurtubise, even though his results weren't much better than Danica's..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hurtubise

alfadriver wrote: Those accidents, in the dry, were substantially worse than Danica's- bonehead wise.

Yeah, I know I said I was gonna shut up..but alfadriver's right, and I just had to give him an "x2, dude!". I'm not a Danica fan..but I'm no Danica hater, either. Does anyone else want to ignore the advertising and just watch the damn races?