He froze. Drive, ride, or fly as far into the crash as possible. The Vette owner had every right to be majorly pissed, but seemed to take it well, all things considered.
He froze. Drive, ride, or fly as far into the crash as possible. The Vette owner had every right to be majorly pissed, but seemed to take it well, all things considered.
Some pics of the aftermath:
Sadly, there was worse to come. A few hours later a local, experienced Dragon rider came around the corner and crashed in the fluids left by the Vette/Triumph incident. He was hospitalized with a broken neck, broken back, collapsed lungs, skull fracture and facial injuries that will require reconstructive surgeries. And, yes, he was using a full-face helmet.
oldsaw wrote: Sadly, there was worse to come. A few hours later a local, experienced Dragon rider came around the corner and crashed in the fluids left by the Vette/Triumph incident. He was hospitalized with a broken neck, broken back, collapsed lungs, skull fracture and facial injuries that will require reconstructive surgeries. And, yes, he was using a full-face helmet.
This is why you can't push it on the street.....there are no safety stewards, no corner workers to red flag you if "track" conditions are not safe, and no medics on hand.
Cotton wrote: Looks like the biker just got scared and stood it up.....
That's what I see too, a very common problem for riders coming into a turn a bit fast, as they haven't practiced how to throw their bike through a turn.
Until the tires are sliding out from under you, the bike can in fact turn harder than it already is.
Same bike, in the hands of a rider who'd practiced how to turn hard, and there would have been no accident. The bike itself easily could have made it.
Distraction and target fixation also came into play. Again, nothing to do with the bike. These are also rider/driver problems. As a rider, you must not become distracted from the mission at hand. He distracted himself with the photographer, and then appeared to stare at the car, not his escape path.
I noticed in one of the pictures the fork oil erupting (funny word) from the tubes.
That really sucks about the guy who wrecked later...really sucks.
oldsaw wrote: Sadly, there was worse to come. A few hours later a local, experienced Dragon rider came around the corner and crashed in the fluids left by the Vette/Triumph incident. He was hospitalized with a broken neck, broken back, collapsed lungs, skull fracture and facial injuries that will require reconstructive surgeries. And, yes, he was using a full-face helmet.
Do you have any more details on this? Did his helmet come off or come apart? Was it a flip up full face? Or did he sustain the injuries through the faceshield?
I'm just curious...when someone gets injuries like that wearing a full face it makes me wonder the circumstances.
foxtrapper wrote: Distraction and target fixation also came into play. Again, nothing to do with the bike. These are also rider/driver problems. As a rider, you must *not* become distracted from the mission at hand. He distracted himself with the photographer, and then appeared to stare at the car, not his escape path.
If you click thru the photos at the link in the OP, you see the rear didnt lift (nose dive under brakes) until well after he crossed the double yellow...seems to me there something very wrong with the skillset of the operator if you dont think to brake as you begin to approach the yellow line. Distraction combined with lack of control/situational awareness = zomfgupsidedown 
He should have laid it down. Less damage all around. He tried to strighten it up and went straight for the Corvette.
He went right where he was looking. It never fails. Always look where you want to go and most of the time - you will get there.
Cotton wrote:oldsaw wrote: Sadly, there was worse to come. A few hours later a local, experienced Dragon rider came around the corner and crashed in the fluids left by the Vette/Triumph incident. He was hospitalized with a broken neck, broken back, collapsed lungs, skull fracture and facial injuries that will require reconstructive surgeries. And, yes, he was using a full-face helmet.Do you have any more details on this? Did his helmet come off or come apart? Was it a flip up full face? Or did he sustain the injuries through the faceshield? I'm just curious...when someone gets injuries like that wearing a full face it makes me wonder the circumstances.
I can't fink the thread link right now, but apparently he went over the edge of the road and down into the trees. He was lucky(?) that a couple of riders had stopped at the turn and they were able to assist until rescue personnel arrived and co-ordinated to get him stabilized and on to the hospital. It took about an hour for that to happen.
It has been speculated that if witnesses weren't there, no one would have known he was down and off the road.
Nothing specific was posted about the type of helmet, just that it received extensive damage. Considering the lower facial injuries, I'd guess that the chin-area absorbed a really big hit. It seems unlikely he was using a flip-up helmet as they aren't and never really have been in vogue or considered as "better" than a standard full-face version. No mention if the helmet stayed on during the accident.
I do remember someone posting the bike had Lucky Strike livery which strongly suggests a Suzuki sportbike and a rider emulating Kevin Schwanz. That's an observation, not a criticism as experienced riders know they take chances when riding at speed on public roads.
In reply to oldsaw:
That must have been one hell of a hit...dude is lucky to be alive. If you end up finding the thread post it up if you don't mind.
In reply to oldsaw:
Heres the link someone added to my post of this over on shoforum....prolly what you're looking for. 
http://www.easttnriders.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41945
Edit: the first link is for well wishers for Jeff, who was riding said Lucky Strike Suzuki. This thread appears to be dedicated to the cause/effect debate
http://www.easttnriders.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41954
mndsm wrote: Pic 19. I shouldnt laugh, but I damn near fell out of my chair.
YOU fell out of your chair?
My thought was I bet the rider didn't thank the Vette driver for keeping him from going over the edge.
nickel_dime wrote: My thought was I bet the rider didn't thank the Vette driver for keeping him from going over the edge.
Prolly not......the rider that later went through the oil there wasn't so lucky.
yamaha wrote: In reply to oldsaw: Heres the link someone added to my post of this over on shoforum....prolly what you're looking for.
Wow, so here is the list of injuries:
Fractured skull around orbital area
Missing top 4 teeth
Lip split up to nose
Broken neck
Broken back (again)
2 collapsed lungs
Multiple ribs broken on both sides
Lacerated liver
Busted up kidney
Heaving bruising on right side
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: He went right where he was looking. It never fails. Always look where you want to go and most of the time - you will get there.
That's the first hard painful lesson of dirt biking right there. It's called target fixation and yes if you stare at it long enough you will hit it. Man, I'm sorry to hear about the guy who went down in the slime and got tore up.
Curmudgeon wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: He went right where he was looking. It never fails. Always look where you want to go and most of the time - you will get there.That's the first hard painful lesson of dirt biking right there. It's called target fixation and yes if you stare at it long enough you will hit it. Man, I'm sorry to hear about the guy who went down in the slime and got tore up.
I read through both threads and couldn't find any mention of gear or helmet...strange.
Cotton wrote: Wow, so here is the list of injuries:
I like my cage I like my cage I like my cage I like my cage I like my cage I like my cage....
Pretty harsh on the rider here... guy made a dumb mistake, but I was very glad to hear that
Definitely not an shiny happy person, just someone who made a dumb mistake and didn't have time to recover from it.
The second rider.... it's unfortunate, but it's a public road, and there are going to be slick spots caused by any number of things. If I drove my MG down that road, I'd have carnage all around behind me.
In reply to Teh E36 M3:
That's why MG's need a diaper and a magnet tied to the rear bumper. 
Curmudgeon wrote: In reply to Teh E36 M3: That's why MG's need a diaper and a magnet tied to the rear bumper.
Say What material!!!!!
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