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Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson PowerDork
11/25/14 9:20 a.m.

Pikes Peak is always a good place for massive aero

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/25/14 9:30 a.m.

I like aero. There's more planned for the winter.

The wing does tricks sometimes, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK5wDfDK2Lk

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/25/14 12:26 p.m.

Any reason for the kink in the uprights?

Cone_Junkie
Cone_Junkie SuperDork
11/25/14 12:29 p.m.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/25/14 12:32 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: Any reason for the kink in the uprights?

Yes, it lets me bolt the wing into the very strong vertical edges of the trunk instead of using all my downforce to deform the trunk lid. I also found it allowed for less deflection of the mount from drag - if you grab the wing and pull backwards, you can see the mounts trying to bow apart on the longest edge at the back. Thus the wires on the taller of the two mount setups. They're attached to the center of that area that wants to bow and make a big difference.

Kinks in the mounts are good enough for Porsche...

slantvaliant
slantvaliant SuperDork
11/25/14 1:17 p.m.

Go big or stay home:

tuna55
tuna55 UltimaDork
11/25/14 1:27 p.m.

My favorite wing of all time

And it made a lot more downforce than your pansy wings posted so far.

jsquared
jsquared Reader
11/25/14 1:50 p.m.

The Pikes Peak aerofoils would likely disagree :D

And since it would be inappropriate to drop a comment without participating:

tuna55
tuna55 UltimaDork
11/25/14 1:58 p.m.

In reply to jsquared:

Top Fuel dragsters generate about 5,500 lb of downforce on the rear wing, and about 1,000 lb on the front, and about 800 lb just from the headers being pointed upwards.

I would almost promise that the Pikes Peak guys aren't seeing that, if nothing else because of the huge speed deficit.

Though sometimes even both wings isn't enough to keep them on the ground:

Scott_H
Scott_H New Reader
11/25/14 4:12 p.m.
pinchvalve wrote: I think the Countach has the most famous rear wing, and the stupidest/ugliest wing ever out front.

The front wing is a bumper. They needed it to meet the US bumper height law. Yes, stoopid.

jsquared
jsquared Reader
11/25/14 4:16 p.m.
tuna55 wrote: In reply to jsquared: Top Fuel dragsters generate about 5,500 lb of downforce on the rear wing, and about 1,000 lb on the front, and about 800 lb just from the headers being pointed upwards. I would almost promise that the Pikes Peak guys aren't seeing that, if nothing else because of the huge speed deficit. Though sometimes even both wings isn't enough to keep them on the ground:

I forgot to factor in the speed differential I am seriously off my game today.

Oh and

tuna55 said: about 800 lb just from the headers being pointed upwards

FSP_ZX2
FSP_ZX2 Dork
11/25/14 4:20 p.m.

cwh
cwh PowerDork
11/25/14 4:26 p.m.

What is a Gurney Flap?

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
11/25/14 4:27 p.m.
slantvaliant wrote: Go big or stay home:

Team Chaparral should have stayed home because even that monstrosity of an afterthought never helped that car go fast.

Here's a more successful early attempt:

DaveEstey
DaveEstey PowerDork
11/25/14 4:32 p.m.

I don't have closer pics, but I built this wing after the driver said the rear was too loose. 3'x6' with 6" sides. He didn't think it was too loose anymore, and when his breather started blowing oil it made an awesome rooster tail.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/25/14 4:34 p.m.
cwh wrote: What is a Gurney Flap?

Also known as a wickerbill. It's a short vertical extension on the rear of a wing that increases the efficiency of the airfoil quite shockingly.

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
11/25/14 8:06 p.m.
tuna55 said: about 800 lb just from the headers being pointed upwards

And there's another top fuel fact that blew my mind.

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
11/25/14 8:11 p.m.

Active aero is where its at.

McLaren MP4-12C

Pagani Hyura front wing

Jim Pettengill
Jim Pettengill HalfDork
11/25/14 9:40 p.m.

Saw the 2H at the Chaparral museum in Midland, thank God it doesn't have the monstrous high wing on it. The car didn't work, but as usual, Hall was trying some daring ideas. It was supposed to be a coupe with a flat top, but Surtees refused to drive it in that form. DeDion rear suspension and the widest tires I've ever seen. I saw Hall, Sharp and Penske (yes, Penske) drive the 2B and 2C back in the day, and was at the Stardust Can-Am in '68 when Hall flipped the 2G and ended his driving career. Anyone who has any reason to be anywhere near Midland (which is pretty close to the middle of nowhere) must go to the museum.

Rad_Capz
Rad_Capz HalfDork
11/25/14 10:44 p.m.

A-TEAM wing.

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oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
11/26/14 1:11 a.m.

front aero....

rear aero....

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/26/14 9:42 a.m.
Scott_H wrote: The front wing is a bumper. They needed it to meet the US bumper height law. Yes, stoopid.

Oh wow, I never knew.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/26/14 9:44 a.m.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
11/26/14 10:38 a.m.

Mitsubishi MU-2 wing with the spoiler extended and the flaps at 40 degrees

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 SuperDork
11/26/14 10:45 a.m.

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