So, I look outside this morning...

nice 66 today... went to bed at 9am with a window open in my bedroom... felt nice

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/21/clinton-makes-fun-dems-republicans/

Uncle Bill said: Former President Bill Clinton poked fun at his ex-veep Saturday, telling the Gridiron Club's annual dinner that he was speaking on the night before the start of spring, "otherwise known to Al Gore as proof of global warming."

The guy has talent. I see a (brief) career in stand-up.

MrJoshua wrote: Silly people, it's global "Climate Change" now.

[Church Lady] "How Convenient" [Church Lady/]

Conservatives, of which I’m one, look like total idiots when they dismiss the prospects of human induced climate change out right. Liberals, however, display equivalent idiocy when they wax pseudoscientific dribble that’s little more than an antidotal cluster Berkley of confusing correlation for causality, making predictions based on wild extrapolations, and now, hedging their bet by expanding the definition of proof to any atmospheric anomaly they can find.

In my opinion:

Is the climate changing…of course it is, the only constant is change.

Are we causing the change…we’re probably playing a significant role.

What’s the relationship between GHG emission and climate change…not well underatood. It’s possible that the oceans are capable of sequestering all the carbon we can release for the foreseeable future. It’s also possible that we’ve already passed a phase transition and regardless of what we do at this point, we’re in for big trouble.

My GUESS is that our actions are significantly increasing the risk of our climate falling out of equilibrium and so I would like to see us be better stewards of the planet.

Unfortunately though, we’ve gone from good intentions to abject corruption faster than a Miata can carve through the twisty section of a Solo II course.

Cap & Trade, AB32, The Kyoto Protocol, etc. = Transference of wealth, growth of government, & in most cases, a net increase in GHG emissions.

Health care reform = Transference of burden, growth of government, & in most cases, a net decrease in quality of service.

I won’t buy into something just to appear compassionate or receptive to change.

RX Reven' wrote: In my opinion: Blah, blah, blah, etc., .

Wow- just 'cause Hess has snow!

Any one who has researched climate change knows that the last 300 years have been uncharacteristicaly stable, as mean temperature is concerned. Huge swings of temperature (affectionately called ice ages) are the norm for our planet. Humans are just spoiled from the stability in recent times.

I'm more concerned with the "stripmining" of all life forms from the ocean.

And Flounder........

Flounder live in the ocean.... and in one particular forum

4eyes wrote: I'm more concerned with the "stripmining" of all life forms from the ocean.

Mmm... delicious aquatic lifeforms.... mmmmm.

RX Reven' wrote: I won’t buy into something just to appear compassionate or receptive to change.

But... but... it's for the children.

(figgers he might as well flounder hell out of this thread)

If what I have read is correct... ~ 10,000 yrs ago there was a glacier as far south as Roanoke Va. ... where did it go? global warming ? climate change ? what ever.. RX Reven' said... "are we causing it with our cars and coal fired electric plants (to loosely paraphrase)... doubt it... adding to the problem ... probably

Are you floundering in the snow?

No, they are infected with hesstosterone.

John Brown wrote: No, they are infected with hesstosterone.

we should all chip in and buy the guy a Costco sized box of tin Foil for his birthday. He's got hats to make.

ignorant wrote:

John Brown wrote: No, they are infected with hesstosterone.

we should all chip in and buy the guy a Costco sized box of tin Foil for his birthday. He's got hats to make.

I don't know, he is a bit of a conspiracy theorist but I get a bit of a Mel Gibson "Conspiracy Theory" vibe from him. I think there is some truth in the crazy. My my hat XL.

I saw your new word, JB.

What's the matter, iggy, you lose your hat and need another? The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (TM Hillary) out to get you? Without your hat, they'll reprogram you for sure. You already don't want to kill babies anymore. Next thing you know, you'll be driving a CO2 spewing engine for FUN on the weekends.

well....all the snow's gone again here in Michigan, I'll be riding tomorrow

Dear Al Gore:

I live in Mississippi. We got snow and sleet today. It's March. This isn't right. Please quit teasing us using the phrase "Global Warming". Climate Change isn't better: I liked the old climate this week before this sudden cold snap.

Thanks!

Dr. Hess wrote: What's the matter, iggy, you lose your hat and need another? The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (TM Hillary) out to get you? Without your hat, they'll reprogram you for sure. You already don't want to kill babies anymore. Next thing you know, you'll be driving a CO2 spewing engine for FUN on the weekends.

No man.. I don't need a tin foil hat. My dad made enough for me.

$5 that in 5 years this health care thing turns out to be a sacred cow like Medicare and all those nutters who went against it are now hosed....

The days of the right wing crazy in this country are numbered. Man.. Immigration reform happens and there is no way conservatives are getting any votes.

Waiiiiiit I'm sorry.. Those who spit on black politicians are going to be the saviors of us.. They're so patriotic and constitutional.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032002556.html Keep it up Baggers.. Keep distancing yourselves from the mainstream, be the next ralph nader..

ignorant wrote: ... Man.. Immigration reform happens and there is no way conservatives are getting any votes....

Don't bank on that. Hard working laborers who believe in pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, have strong family values, admire military service and go to church on Sunday? Sounds pretty old school conservative to me. Not Republican mind you, cuz they all suck. But conservative

Mental wrote:

ignorant wrote: ... Man.. Immigration reform happens and there is no way conservatives are getting any votes....

Don't bank on that. Hard working laborers who believe in pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, have strong family values, admire military service and go to church on Sunday? Sounds pretty old school conservative to me. Not Republican mind you, cuz they all suck. But conservative

they will not turn their back on the party that helped them attain citizenship.

Dr. Hess wrote: I saw your new word, JB.

So did the black helicopters, I had weird things happening to my cell phone and computer all weekend ;)

wbjones wrote: If what I have read is correct... ~ 10,000 yrs ago there was a glacier as far south as Roanoke Va. ... where did it go? global warming ? climate change ? what ever.. RX Reven' said... "are we causing it with our cars and coal fired electric plants (to loosely paraphrase)... doubt it... adding to the problem ... probably

Must have been those ner-do- wells Adam and Eve building their camp fires.

John Brown wrote:

Dr. Hess wrote: I saw your new word, JB.

So did the black helicopters, I had weird things happening to my cell phone and computer all weekend ;)

Yeah, well, be nice and I'll call them off.

So, made it in to work today. Glad I parked the Rolla at the top of the driveway and had the Graspics on. The drive in was a 12 on my rating system. I count each wiped out car on the way in. Just sitting on the side doesn't count. It has to be sunk down to it's axles in the median, upside down, on its side with the front end ripped off, etc. 12. Not a record, but a significant number none-the-less. Most looked to be from last night.

It's about 45 in Lansing right now, it was 65 on thursday.