914Driver
914Driver Dork
2/3/09 6:20 p.m.

50 years ago today Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Richie Valenz dirt dove an Iowa corn field in a snow storm.

Where would music be if they made it to Fargo, lived 20 more years?

Dan

NYG95GA
NYG95GA Dork
2/3/09 6:36 p.m.

To quote another old song:

"If there is a rock and roll heaven, you know they have a hell of a band."

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
2/3/09 6:56 p.m.
914Driver wrote: 50 years ago today Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Richie Valenz dirt dove an Iowa corn field in a snow storm. Where would music be if they made it to Fargo, lived 20 more years? Dan

Music would be about the same. Valens and the Bopper were already one-hit wonders by '59. Holly was the only one of the three with any significant, long-lasting impact.

If it weren't for American Pie, nobody would think any more of it than they do the plane crash that took out Patsy Cline.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/3/09 7:12 p.m.
Tim Baxter wrote:
914Driver wrote: 50 years ago today Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Richie Valenz dirt dove an Iowa corn field in a snow storm. Where would music be if they made it to Fargo, lived 20 more years? Dan
Music would be about the same. Valens and the Bopper were already one-hit wonders by '59. Holly was the only one of the three with any significant, long-lasting impact. If it weren't for American Pie, nobody would think any more of it than they do the plane crash that took out Patsy Cline.

The Bopper maybe, but Valens was only 17.

billy3esq
billy3esq Dork
2/3/09 8:09 p.m.

In other music news, today is also Felix Mendelssohn's 200th birthday.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
2/3/09 8:33 p.m.

They could have made a significant impact, or they could have gone all Brando and gotten fat and lazy. I mean, look at all of the 60-somethings out there on reunion tours. Where have they been the last 40 years? They can't all be Jimmy Buffet and writing hits into their waning years.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 HalfDork
2/3/09 10:00 p.m.

I know this will be controversial, but if music hadn't been dead by then, the day Metallica started going after Napster could have well been a deadly day for music.

Other than that the end of the hair band era was a sad day in music history.

I'm not a g-unit or thug or anything like that, I do appreciate good music when I hear it and the late 80s, early 90s rap was good crap with peeps like Dr. Dre, Biggie, Tupac, etc. Nowadays this hip-hop/rap is pure E36 M3. I can't even comprehend why they call it music, but for some reason it's played on the radio as music. There is no substance, no content, just a bunch of jibber-jabber.

If you wanted to be technical, the 90s could have possibly been the last decade to get really good music. Country hadn't gone pop yet, metal/rock was going strong, rap as I already stated had quality music, Kenny was hitting the G spots, etc.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/3/09 10:18 p.m.
DirtyBird222 wrote: If you wanted to be technical, the 90s could have possibly been the last decade to get really good music. Country hadn't gone pop yet, metal/rock was going strong, rap as I already stated had quality music, Kenny was hitting the G spots, etc.

+1. It seems that today I have to look in my basement for Dads Vinyl records, or on the internet for underground country. John Hiatt, Lyle Lovett FTW

rebelgtp
rebelgtp HalfDork
2/3/09 10:30 p.m.

Don't forget the 90's gave us this http://youtube.com/watch?v=RJDLio9Th_Q

I actually had the CD for this when I was a kid.

Opus
Opus HalfDork
2/4/09 1:01 a.m.
rebelgtp wrote: Don't forget the 90's gave us this http://youtube.com/watch?v=RJDLio9Th_Q I actually had the CD for this when I was a kid.

link does not work

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/4/09 2:39 a.m.

worked for me

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
2/4/09 8:47 a.m.
mtn wrote:
Tim Baxter wrote:
914Driver wrote: 50 years ago today Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Richie Valenz dirt dove an Iowa corn field in a snow storm. Where would music be if they made it to Fargo, lived 20 more years? Dan
Music would be about the same. Valens and the Bopper were already one-hit wonders by '59. Holly was the only one of the three with any significant, long-lasting impact. If it weren't for American Pie, nobody would think any more of it than they do the plane crash that took out Patsy Cline.
The Bopper maybe, but Valens was only 17.

In honor of this, I made my first iTunes purchase today - Come on Let's Go. Of course, I got the Los Lobos version because it sounds better, but still.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp HalfDork
2/4/09 9:35 a.m.
Opus wrote: link does not work

worked when I just tried it.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
2/4/09 9:40 a.m.
mtn wrote:
DirtyBird222 wrote:
+1. It seems that today I have to look in my basement for Dads Vinyl records, or on the internet for underground country. John Hiatt, Lyle Lovett FTW

John Hiatt and Lyle Lovett will be playing together on Letterman tonight. Love those guys, especially Hiatt.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/4/09 10:16 a.m.
Joe Gearin wrote:
mtn wrote:
DirtyBird222 wrote:
+1. It seems that today I have to look in my basement for Dads Vinyl records, or on the internet for underground country. John Hiatt, Lyle Lovett FTW
John Hiatt and Lyle Lovett will be playing together on Letterman tonight. Love those guys, especially Hiatt.

Awesome. I've seen them both live twice, once they were together with Guy Clark and Joe Ely. I want to go see them again later this month, but the $55 ticket is a little much for a college student.

aircooled
aircooled Dork
2/4/09 10:31 a.m.

Obscure Trivia Question:

What type of plane was it?

(no Googling, but they did show the correct plane in that horrible Richie Velenz movie.)

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
2/4/09 10:36 a.m.

I believe it was a Cessna.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/4/09 10:58 a.m.

I know that it had room for 3 + a pilot. and the Pilot was 21, 22, or 23 years old.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Reader
2/4/09 1:32 p.m.

Beech Bonanza, named "Miss American Pie" It pays to live in Lubbock

NYG95GA
NYG95GA Dork
2/4/09 2:34 p.m.

That's some good trivia! Explains the Don McClean title, too.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Reader
2/4/09 3:09 p.m.

FWIW, Peggy Sue has a book out.
Whatever Happened to Peggy Sue?

Edit: As I posted this, "Peggy Sue" came on the radio. Cool!

JFX001
JFX001 HalfDork
2/4/09 3:53 p.m.

I think that Holly and Valen's would've had some staying power.

billy3esq
billy3esq Dork
2/4/09 5:30 p.m.
slantvaliant wrote: Beech Bonanza, named "Miss American Pie"

a/k/a V-tailed doctor killer.

slantvaliant wrote: It pays to live in Lubbock

Nowhere near enough.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/4/09 6:07 p.m.
slantvaliant wrote: Beech Bonanza, named "Miss American Pie" It pays to live in Lubbock

As much as I would like to believe this, I have done extensive research into the song... which doesn't really get you very far, but it does show that the plane had no name.

http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/americanpie.asp

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