Jerry From LA wrote:mad_machine wrote: I stopped using XP when MS finally stopped supporting it.. I will do the same with 7I'm still receiving updates from the Borg, er Microsoft for my XP.
I'm not... because I refuse to let anything auto-update.
That's one of my biggest peeves about anything software-related. Don't scribble all over my computer just because you feel like it.
here's the thing.
by windows Vista SP2 with Platform Update, MS was trying to get people to stop navigating thru the hierarchical start menu for everything.
for example, those of us who want to change the screen save timer are used to right clicking on the desktop to bring up that menu, or bringing up the control panel.
but since Vista, all you need to do is hit START once, then type Screen Saver.
People who've gotten used to doing things in Windows like that have absolutely no problem with Win 8, because you can still do that.
This thread got me to thinkin' about how I use my computers.
If I need to work in a program, I launch it from the Start menu.
If I want to work with specific files, I go Start menu - My Computer / My Documents / whichever - then right-click the file and choose what program I want to open it.
My desktops tend to just have folders (bad idea, I know) or hyperlinks to folders elsewhere on the computer. I guess this means I am file-oriented instead of application-oriented.
But hey, I can change. Ask me this question five years ago, and I'd insist on calling them "directories" and sneer at anybody who said "folders".
But still, no touch screen. That's just an ergonomic nightmare for anything that requires text input. (And, what doesn't require text input?)
I can see 8 working if you want to say open outlook or open word and create a document or surf the web.
This works for the home user or for those that use the computer more as a social or media device (think tablet or smart phone). The work environment is different I am for ever navigating to a location (usually a job folder or a specific library of information) and getting information from a folder and using that information and since I don't always know the file type I then open the file and let the computer pick the appropriate application.
8 appears to want you to pick the application and then go open the file. I don't want to think about the application I want to get at the information. The program type should be transparent. I have had a problem with people in my office coming to me saying they can not find a file and when I go see what they are doing I find them looking for a file through MSword and of course when you go to open a file in MS word all it lets you see are word docs when the file I am looking for may be a cad document or a PDF or a tif or JPG.
This is the core problem with 8 as I see it. They are trying to change the basic way people use the computer with respect to how you get at information.
mad_machine wrote: a month ago we had a MS convention at the Borgata. I was within earshot, but out of sight when two of the execs were laughing how some of our machines still use XP. And there is a reason for that.
Ya it works like a hammer. It is never my XP machines that have issues. It seems that the newer the OS the more IT time a machine needs.
Knurled wrote: This thread got me to thinkin' about how I use my computers. I guess this means I am file-oriented instead of application-oriented.
And I am application-oriented so that has made the transition from XP to W8 rather simple. My XP machine has 30 shortcuts (all applications) on the desktop. So far the desktop on the W8 machine has 12 shortcuts on the desktop and 6 on the taskbar.
One thing I have done is to put my most used apps on the taskbar (single click or touch since I have 27" touchscreen) and the less frequently used ones on the desktop (double click or tap).
dean1484 wrote: The work environment is different I am for ever navigating to a location (usually a job folder or a specific library of information) and getting information from a folder and using that information and since I don't always know the file type I then open the file and let the computer pick the appropriate application.
W8 works that way also. Use File Explorer to find the file and double click. Opens the file with the app that created it.
If it is a file you use frequently you can even put a shortcut to it on your desktop just like XP. Haven't tried to make it a tile on the start screen yet since I work from he desktop 99% of the time.
Windows 8 sucks and my windows phone is going to meet its namesake before I am done with it.
Time to bring back the dude from Apple that talks with the dude from Microsoft, only the Microsoft guy can be Jessie from Breaking Bad.
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