Workshop: Sequence of Construction?

So I'm getting close to the framing inspection.

For the framing inspection, they want to see rough-in of doors and windows, rough-in of gas, and rough-in of electrical (no sewer in this build).

Gas guy doesn't want to rough-in the furnace and gas if there are no doors.

I don't want to rough-in electrical if the copper isn't secure.

Construction friend says doors can be installed, as "lock-up" is the what the framing inspection stage is.

Door guy doesn't want to install overhead door until the drywall is done.

Drywall shouldn't be done until the garage is enclosed, and drywall can't be done until I pass the framing inspection.

It's as if none of these people have every worked together before.

I'm wondering if my own sense of logic and sequence is seriously flawed, and has previously undetected.

I often find lack of coordination an issue, although it is usually on my part.

iadr wrote: Door guy is the one in the wrong. Boot him far away, and get another. Problem solved. (Has he never installed industrial shops which may never be finished? Sounds like a very small minded guy who got some casual complaint, or some drywall dust in his eyes and turned into a whiner.) Regardless of the "why's", he's in the wrong.

No he's not.

Residential doors are always hung before sheetrock. So are industrial doors.

They CAN be hung without sheetrock, but good luck hanging the sheetrock.

Residential doors require door pads that extend up past the opening, plus a block in between. Royal PITA to sheetrock around after the door is hung.

Plus, the door track hangs from brackets on the ceiling. You are gonna get a really crappy ceiling if you try to hang the drywall around the brackets, and it is highly likely you will damage the door.

It's very standard to install garage doors after drywall.

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SkinnyG wrote: So I'm getting close to the framing inspection. For the framing inspection, they want to see rough-in of doors and windows, rough-in of gas, and rough-in of electrical (no sewer in this build). Gas guy doesn't want to rough-in the furnace and gas if there are no doors. I don't want to rough-in electrical if the copper isn't secure. Construction friend says doors can be installed, as "lock-up" is the what the framing inspection stage is. Door guy doesn't want to install overhead door until the drywall is done. Drywall shouldn't be done until the garage is enclosed, and drywall can't be done until I pass the framing inspection. It's as if none of these people have every worked together before. I'm wondering if my own sense of logic and sequence is seriously flawed, and has previously undetected.

I think you are assuming things, and therefore it looks illogical.

1- Doors are not necessary for Framing inspection. He's inspecting the door openings, not the doors. However, they CAN be installed.

2- Why doesn't the gas guy want to rough in? It's required for a framing inspection. He does not have to set the units.

3- If you don't want to wire the building before it is secure, then secure it. But you can't get a framing inspection without the wiring complete.

4- "Lockup" is not an inspection milestone. Close-in is (that's sheathing on the walls and the roof dried in, but not necessarily locked up)

5- As noted earlier, coordinate your construction detailing between your door installer and your sheetrocker. However, I do not recommend installing the overhead doors so early. They will get damaged. There is no reason you need to install them now. You are out of sequence.

6- Drywall is almost always done in garages before the doors are hung. There is no reason not to. If you hang the door first, you will force your drywaller to hang the ceiling around the overhead door hanger brackets- there is almost no way to do this. But you are right, you can't hang drywall until the framing inspection is complete.

Note: you do not need a garage door to secure a building. secure the inner door to the house, or close in the garage door opening with a temporary wall.

Is there any other access door beside the main overhead door?

If so, just board up the main door temporarily. It's probably the cheapest quickest solution to getting the place secure and being able to pass your inspection.

If you don't have an additional access door then maybe you could put a temporary door in the boarding.

Then get it drywalled and then get door guy to hang the main door.

See the hanger brackets for the track and opener?

They mount after drywall.

If it is a fire rated ceiling (like if there is living space above it), they HAVE TO. You can't have a fire rated ceiling with the brackets penetrating the drywall.

That gives me a better toke of reality. Thank you.

You are welcome.

Sorry if I sounded rambling. Sleep deprived brain.

Around here for residential they hang the door like the above picture. Drywall first, then the door.

In reply to iadr:

Not sure what you mean.

Didn't mean to be referencing any "dumb regulations". Just talking about how to hang a garage door. If it is drywalled, drywall happens first.

It's not hard to close up, secure, and/or weather proof a construction site with temporary walls, etc.