Are the blues worth $52 more? $200 vs $252
From their website:
Blue 9012
Medium/High torque and temperature compound with excellent brake modulation. #1 selling brake pad material for SCCA.
Black
Medium torque and temperature compound designed to be a good, all-purpose low- cost racing brake pad.
Depends. What is your skill level? What class do you run in? What car?
I'd look at the Hawk DTC line up instead of those older pad formulas.
Depends on the track too. Blacks will fade out on a "tough on brakes" track...unless you are just doing one-two lap runs.
Blacks might be OK on a lighter car used on a track that is not overly tough on brakes.
On my Spec7 (1999-2000) I ran blues in front and blacks in back...that worked well, even at Blackhawk Farms, which is extremely hard on brakes.
amg_rx7 wrote: Depends. What is your skill level? What class do you run in? What car? I'd look at the Hawk DTC line up instead of those older pad formulas.
Hawk recommends the DTC line way above the blue and black … both of which are old technology
Those are even more pricey than the Carbotech's I like!
Hooked on hawks HTCs. One set of pads on a 4000 Lemons car for an entire weekend and they are not even half done. Consider me sold.
z31maniac wrote: Those are even more pricey than the Carbotech's I like!
I would love to use Carbotech more often … but Hawk are considerably less expensive, for my application ($175 a set … fronts, and Hawk at $140)
tuna55 wrote: Hooked on hawks HTCs. One set of pads on a 4000 Lemons car for an entire weekend and they are not even half done. Consider me sold.
can't find any reference to the HTC on the Hawk web site … can you get me a link ?
IMO unless you are in a very light car on street tires the blues are E36 M3 from a bygone era. Look at the DTC-60 to match the description you gave for blues on a car from 2000-3500lbs. DTC-70 if you want more torque.
wbjones wrote:tuna55 wrote: Hooked on hawks HTCs. One set of pads on a 4000 Lemons car for an entire weekend and they are not even half done. Consider me sold.can't find any reference to the HTC on the Hawk web site … can you get me a link ?
I meant DTCs, I got confused because we also used HT-10s, which we were fond of as well, but we never used them on the LTD.
Thanks Tuna55,
The chart is helpful.
Part of the problem is I have Wilwood calipers in the front and stock in the rear. I guess the Porsche and circle track guys don't buy the same stuff.
The rears for a 79 911 are $153 HT-10 and special order.
Most of their pads are that pricey. But...
We had put "good" regular pads on Charlie, the very light Amazon. It went though the backing plates and ruined the caliper on the first day. So, your $153 pads may save you a much more expensive caliper (and the subsequent fire). Worth it to us for endurance racing. It's the most expensive thing on the car.
I am sure I could search, but what is up with my avatar. Did the site remodeling loose my old one? I guess that is better than loosing our post count history, like all those years ago. Its been years and I am still not back up where I was. 
snipes wrote: Thanks Tuna55, The chart is helpful. Part of the problem is I have Wilwood calipers in the front and stock in the rear. I guess the Porsche and circle track guys don't buy the same stuff. The rears for a 79 911 are $153 HT-10 and special order.
with your car having so much weight in the back, I guess you do have to be concerned with the pads you put back there 
with the CRX a set of OEM pads will last, at worse the entire season of TT, PDX/HPDE, and a-x … and sometimes I've even gotten them to last 2 seasons … and all this with no braking degradation… better pads on the rear just mean they'll lock up quicker
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