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Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/6/22 12:59 a.m.

In reply to A 401 CJ :

Well, if you're going to start modifying the truck by attaching a little propellor to the hitch all bets are off.  ;)

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/6/22 9:38 a.m.
GIRTHQUAKE said:
Datsun310Guy said:

In reply to 84FSP :

You should start a thread from the sales guy view - I'm in sales and sometimes drive 1000-1200 miles a week.  How can I make this work?

example; finished sales calls two Friday's ago at 3pm and I now have a banzai 325 mile run home.  Am I stopping?  Sitting time?  Charging time?

In my Silverado I stopped for gas/bathroom and hustled tail to get home.

I can try. I was planning on soon tracking energy use for it to see how much it was costing me verus my daily EVO.

On my 14-50 plug (220v) I add 29 miles an hour in a charge, and I always have the option for 110v for the paltry 3-4 if needed (which is what I and the prior owner did). At your max of 1,200 miles in a week that's a hair under 42 hours total charging if you can do it on 220; that seems doable at night without seeing maps of where you go!

As for 325 miles home- you'd have to charge once, assuming you got to the office and were able to recharge completely while you are there and weren't getting the newer S'es with 400+ miles range. Do you have a charger at work? Routine supercharging can degrade the battery, but the Tesloop company showed on their 600,000 mile pack it does it less than what even Tesla thought.

Assuming left with a full charge in a Long-Range 3, no winter losses... one stop for 20 minutes? How fast do you cannonball home?

FYI, you can see how much energy the car has consumed in the app and on the main screen. Doesn't take charger inefficiencies into account but they're not huge.

Charging overnight on a Level 2 (basically, 220v) should give you a full charge without too much difficulty, so the question of "how far can I drive without stopping" starts over every morning. If you're a roaming sales guy, look for hotels with destination chargers - hotels.com has that as a filter when searching.

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/7/22 8:21 a.m.

I'll be curious to see what happens when the weather cools significantly.  Re: I was this close to ordering one yesterday.  Then I talked myself down.  Seems that with the way they depreciate (they don't), it might be a better investment than that money in the bank with inflation and all.  Add in the fact that OPEC Plus just bent us over yesterday and ....I'm back on the ledge again.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE SuperDork
10/7/22 11:29 a.m.
A 401 CJ said:

I'll be curious to see what happens when the weather cools significantly.  Re: I was this close to ordering one yesterday.  Then I talked myself down.  Seems that with the way they depreciate (they don't), it might be a better investment than that money in the bank with inflation and all.  Add in the fact that OPEC Plus just bent us over yesterday and ....I'm back on the ledge again.

InsideEV's user with a 2019 Long Range Model 3 lost an average of 34% in Canada, with temps ~1F. His 2019 like mine, has a resistance heater (which is just a space heater in the dash). It has links to the Model Y tests, which have a heat pump- it's claimed that they'll have only a ~20% drop instead (But some of them are failing, not sure why yet.)

I tried to find more articles on range loss but ones like this one from MarketWatch aren't scientific, basically just he said/she said stinkpieces. I'll see if the youtuber Bjorn Nyland has any details on battery losses in cold Norway, he's tested like every EV out there.

What's you life and routine like? Because honestly, with our media freakout it might be high time to buy one now.

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/7/22 12:19 p.m.

We've done winter road trips in ours and any loss in range had no effect on our trip. We didn't have to change our usual charging stops other than a 5 minute top-up before heading into a mountain pass during heavy snow, because it doesn't matter what you drive you want a full tank for that. I would have stopped to fill an ICE in the same situation.

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