Hal
SuperDork
12/11/15 9:35 p.m.
Dashpot wrote:
Hal wrote:
1/4" thick fiberglass. Absolutely did not move and wore like iron.
You had a boat on your floor?
Yep, that's the way they were made back then. Fit snug enough that you had to stomp on them to get them down in place. Had them in for 7 years until I got rid of the Explorer. Whish they made them the same way now.
M2Pilot
HalfDork
12/11/15 9:41 p.m.
I have weathertech mats in my '96 Dodge truck that I bought in late 95. They were purchased very soon after I bought the truck. They've held up well & made cleaning the carpet much easier.
The truck is still ugly as hell. It was that damned red color that seems to fall off all the Dodge truck of that era.
I have WT liners in the Mazda 3 and Tacoma. Keeps the snow/ice/water/salt away from the carpets. Even use them in the summer for the mud and sand at the lake here in Minnesota
I've had three sets of WeatherTechs by now and been very happy. My last set didn't fit very well despite being the same model of car; it came out of the box crinkled and never 'set.' It's nothing dangerous, but it annoys me when I go to push the clutch down and occasionally get a crinkly crushy feeling instead of smooth throw at the end.
The label also fell off the passenger side one almost immediately; there was only a little bit of glue and it didn't make it through an entire winter.
I'll probably go with Husky for the next car.
The Weather Tech liners in my '14 Silverado extend to the sill, covers the door gasket so E36 M3 don't get trapped. That used to drive me nuts. Not all WTs cover that tho.
Have WT liners in the S197 and E92, thin enough ya don't even know they're there but work great. Great fit too.
Put a WT trunk liner in the E92 just this very morning.
I also say go with WT. They are made in the USA, in fact they are made near Chicago and I have a friend who works for them. Also the owner of the company is a huge supporter of racing in all forms!
They customer support is also great. For example a friend of mine has a 02 Focus wagon. He installed WT's window air deflectors or whatever you call them. A year ago while we were driving on a trip one of the rear units came off at speed. By the time we realized what had happened it was to late to go back and look for it.
My friend looked up the location of the factory and went over there. There is a "factory outlet" store there and he asked about getting a replacement. They said to wait and they would look to see if they had any in stock.
Since they didn't usually sell just one they gave him a whole kit for his car FREE! Free because one of they came off for no reason other then it was old.
That's great customer service!
I've found the latest WT mats to be very slippery. I like the fact they go up the sides of the floor, but thought they were thin and slippery. The trunk liner didn't fit all that well on both my previous Audi and on my wifes GX470.
I have the OEM Porsche rubber mats in my Cayenne and I much prefer them. Yes, the sides aren't covered like on the WT's, but they fit perfectly and aren't slippery.
iadr wrote:
Both Hyundai and Mazda did offer the Weathertech, and are in the process of dropping it (I'll get back to in favour of what).
- the price point is high (with notably little markup for the dealer)
- the labels falling off is an ongoing joke- they seldom are in place when you remove the product from the box, you have to unstick them off the bag, install them back on the product..where they do not stick...
- fit is iffy (plus the 'oil-canning' effect mentioned)
- the back side is slick and, as such, holds any moisture into the carpet=corrosion and mold.
- the mat upper surface is too slick, as well. Heel slips around.
- they do not use the factory locating pegs in the floor properly- a sloppily cutout hole is not the small level as a properly made snap.
Both brands have been approached by a (non USA) vendor who makes mats that are jut waaaay better in every way.
- proper snap retention
- a material sort of like coarse fiberglass insulation as a backing so like gore-tex, water can get out over time-Plus it offers supplementary locating power.
- great fit, and very nice upper face texture (non slip and great look)
When we had both, the customer choice was about 18:1 against the Weathertech. An advertising driven brand, IMO. Kinda OK, until you see that product done right.
So what's the other brand that you're saying is better?
The wife and I just went to the factory store today. It was pretty crowded but they moved you very fast. Bought a front set of liners for our 2015 Chevy Cruze. They fit like a glove. Even hit the pegs. Only disappointment was they didn't have a race car on display in the showroom, they had a BMW SUV instead. I would have enjoyed seeing the Porsche or even the old Mustang!:D
wbjones
MegaDork
12/13/15 10:24 a.m.
interesting that you could get front liners for your Cruze ... I tried to purchase fronts only for my Sonic, and was told that the only way I could order them (nearly $200) was to get front AND rear ... disappointing ... in the 14 mo. of ownership, I've have rear passengers once
I've heard similar stories, some vehicles get fronts, some both, some you can't get the liners. I looked online first before I went. The wife said if we had to buy both it was a no go. My daughter drives it mostly and she can't have more than one person in the car yet according to the state, so I will wait for the rears until spring.