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codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/29/17 12:43 p.m.

Is Allstate your company or theirs?

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
3/29/17 12:58 p.m.

Allstate is her's and they have been quite decent to me. This is my insurance company's repair estiamte based on the visual check of the car. Which is hilarious as the inspector actually said the car might be totaled due to parts availability.

So what both sides have agreed to do is get the local exotic repair shop to write a complete estimate of repair inside and out and then pay off of that. It just took 17 days to get them to this point and I could have gotten that done last week no issue.

FYI BBS wants 6K a wheel unpainted each and 8 months for delivery, local shop says they have to be replaced due to the large chucks missing out of the spokes on the rear maybe not the front.

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/29/17 1:41 p.m.

If she had just totalled two vipers, you could afford to get one wheel back from Allstate!

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
3/29/17 2:47 p.m.
WonkoTheSane wrote: If she had just totalled two vipers, you could afford to get one wheel back from Allstate!

This is my insurance companies number, Allstate has been really good to me. So good I might even have them quote me out on the house and the cars.

As for the repair. Luckily I have attorneys as in plural due to my extended family. Looks like I just need to get a actual repair doc from a shop and then we are good. Not happy it took this long but so be it.

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/29/17 3:01 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: This is my insurance companies number,

Oooohh... I misread. Sorry about that. That's way worse!

The0retical
The0retical Dork
3/29/17 3:18 p.m.

Well you were looking to build a death kart no?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KBdg-mDx1tM

Chadeux
Chadeux Dork
3/29/17 4:22 p.m.

Needs bigger tires and more boost.

yupididit
yupididit Dork
3/29/17 4:22 p.m.

Tell your insurance company I'll give them $4000 for the car as is.

MDJeepGuy
MDJeepGuy Reader
4/3/17 8:21 p.m.

Loca guy has This green one For sale. Is it worth grabbing and swapping the ACR parts over?

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/3/17 9:18 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: So repair estimate for all the paint, the suspension repair and all the body panel replacement and fixing the wheels from Allstate was 3600$. The shop I brought it got me a estimate where they stopped counting at 50,000. This is going to get ugly. No shop will touch the repair with that low of a repair estimate. They just don't even want to deal with the car. The local Dodge dealer will not do a repair period due to the liability.

$3600!!

My CR-Z was hit on one side by gravel, and final repairs were almost twice that.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/3/17 10:08 p.m.

I was rear ended in my jag and the visual only number was over 10k. That is nuts. Then they got it on a lift and it doubled as they were going to basically have to back half the car. Then the can buss issues were added in as an open ended thing. It was totaled at the 10k mark. The reason I was told of the other damage was the other insurance company wanted to inspect the damage to verify speed claimed by the other party as it was drastically lower than my estimate of 45-50. After inspecting my car they told me that they put the other cars speed well over 50 and closer to 60. Being it was in a school zone it seemed weird. I really don't know who wanted the info but I have never seen the other driver again and we use to see each other quite regularly as we dropped our kids off at the school at the same time and there daughter knows my daughter. I was wondering if the insurance was investigating to see about dropping coverage or something bur to a false report?

Klayfish
Klayfish UberDork
4/4/17 7:18 a.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: Allstate is her's and they have been quite decent to me. This is my insurance company's repair estiamte based on the visual check of the car. Which is hilarious as the inspector actually said the car might be totaled due to parts availability. So what both sides have agreed to do is get the local exotic repair shop to write a complete estimate of repair inside and out and then pay off of that. It just took 17 days to get them to this point and I could have gotten that done last week no issue. FYI BBS wants 6K a wheel unpainted each and 8 months for delivery, local shop says they have to be replaced due to the large chucks missing out of the spokes on the rear maybe not the front.

If I can help, let me know. Something sounds very off. Your insurance company wouldn't be working in partnership with Allstate, unless they're doing something quite far outside the common practice. They don't really have any legal standing to do that. You're either filing with your own carrier or going to Allstate on your own.

Do whatever suits you, but just a piece of advice, don't be "that guy" making lawyer threats. I can assure you that Allstate isn't going to be shaking in their boots, especially for a physical damage claim. The lawyer won't change how they handle it, it'll just slow things down and cost you to pay the lawyer fee (Allstate won't pay it). For your own carrier, there's typically a clause in the policy that spells out how disputes are handled, so you'll be bound to those terms.

It definitely sucks, but I'm not at all surprised it has taken this long. Exotic cars are a pain in the butt. Estimate writing for them isn't like writing a Camry, it's much tougher. Most shops don't want to touch a car like that, which is not the insurance company fault. Parts take forever to get, repairs go slow, supplements are very common. Without seeing the Allstate estimate or vehicle photos, I have no idea why they wrote what they did, but I wouldn't worry...it's the job of your selected shop to get the repairs done right and deal with your insurance carrier. Where possible, I prefer to total an exotic car than try a repair for these very reasons...time, angry customer, cost, etc...

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/4/17 7:32 a.m.
Mike wrote:
wearymicrobe wrote: So repair estimate for all the paint, the suspension repair and all the body panel replacement and fixing the wheels from Allstate was 3600$. The shop I brought it got me a estimate where they stopped counting at 50,000. This is going to get ugly. No shop will touch the repair with that low of a repair estimate. They just don't even want to deal with the car. The local Dodge dealer will not do a repair period due to the liability.
$3600!! My CR-Z was hit on one side by gravel, and final repairs were almost twice that.

How did that happen?

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
4/4/17 12:56 p.m.

Frame is delaminating at the front and the sides they think and needs ~4-6 body panels replaced plus paint.

Cannot even get a quote to repair it right now so yeah I think its dead.

FlightService
FlightService MegaDork
4/4/17 1:18 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: Frame is delaminating at the front..."

they still holding at $3600 or are they gonna pony up for the stated value?

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/4/17 1:29 p.m.
dean1484 wrote:
Mike wrote:
wearymicrobe wrote: So repair estimate for all the paint, the suspension repair and all the body panel replacement and fixing the wheels from Allstate was 3600$. The shop I brought it got me a estimate where they stopped counting at 50,000. This is going to get ugly. No shop will touch the repair with that low of a repair estimate. They just don't even want to deal with the car. The local Dodge dealer will not do a repair period due to the liability.
$3600!! My CR-Z was hit on one side by gravel, and final repairs were almost twice that.
How did that happen?

Ne'er do wells + gravel + doughnuts

Original thread: Learn me: claims and body shop

java230
java230 SuperDork
4/4/17 1:33 p.m.

In reply to wearymicrobe:

Damn, it it even worth buying back for a death kart??

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
4/4/17 1:40 p.m.
FlightService wrote:
wearymicrobe wrote: Frame is delaminating at the front..."
they still holding at $3600 or are they gonna pony up for the stated value?

Now that we have a shop willing to tell them what is wrong I imagine it is a goner.

Now the actual parts main chassis of the car might be ok, cannot see enough of it without disassembling the car. Its the frame extensions that hold on the fenders and the rear hatch and support the wing that sort of thing that is delaminating from the frame. They had the lead shop tech come out and do some measurements and they basically said its a gone unless you found a shop that was willing to take on a 8-12 month repair based on parts availability.

FlightService
FlightService MegaDork
4/4/17 1:57 p.m.

In reply to wearymicrobe:

ouch

84FSP
84FSP Dork
4/4/17 2:17 p.m.

The bummer is that even the salvage value ~10% of the check they send you would likely be too high for Viper kart activities.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
4/4/17 2:17 p.m.

Ouch is the right word. Now that I am learning a bit more about how they go together its amazing there are any of these things left on the road at all. I have been reading where ween the extension get bent they flex the main frame and that gets bent in very subtle ways. Its pretty floppy according to a few people.

Once you bolt everything together is is amazingly stiff but in terms of taking damage its really easy to bend things.

FYI got a part number for the frame replacement from a friend and called Dodge. They actually have one in stock its 37K, but there is a new one that they used for display that is available for 23K if I want to save some money. I even found a video of one of the convertibles getting a frame swap on youtube.

You tube link

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/5/17 11:52 a.m.

Was there a digit missing from the number stated a while back, i.e. $36k vs $36hundred?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/5/17 12:17 p.m.

If you go with the new frame, get it checked for straightness first. For most production cars, even factory-fresh frames are far from perfectly straight. Usually the effects are noticeable in alignment.

For how much you like this car, I know that if I was you I'd slap down the money for a new frame real quick.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
4/5/17 5:28 p.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: Was there a digit missing from the number stated a while back, i.e. $36k vs $36hundred?

Nope they were that far off. Ttotal repair to them was supposed to be 3.6K in total.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce UltimaDork
4/5/17 6:58 p.m.

That's bizarre. The estimate for a light dent to the door and front fender of my truck is $1400. Someone sucks at estimating.

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